Any Trump Supporters here?
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"I'm genuinely curious though- Trump issues aside- how can a gay man vote Republican and keep their self-respect?
You would be voting for a candidate whose party has explicitly ia clear anti-gay position in their platform. Isn't it like having someone slap you in the face and still giving them your support?"and thats any different from voting democrat? a party that has no problem with affiliation to countries and ideas that are openly anti gay? cough Hillary,middle east, islam cough
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Yes, it's very different. Actions speak volumes and the actions of Democrats have helped bring marriage equality to the US. Associating with Islam and the Middle Eastern countries is necessary. It doesn't mean they support the anti-gay policies of those countries.
And again, only the Republican party has made anti-gay policies a core part of their party platform.
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Sounds like we have the London mayor here. He said we have to accept terrorism as part of life and not do anything to prevent it otherwise we'll upset the terrorists.
Citation needed
Read all the various articles about him.
After the semi-recent NYC bombings, he said that terrorism is part and parcel of living in a city and we have to get used to it.
So far, as mayor, he has only looked at responses to terror attacks, not how to prevent them.
As a lawyer, he has made a career out of defending extremist and terrorist muslims.
Both as a politician and as a lawyer, he has been against all programs that have attempted to prevent extremism/terrorism.
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Its in times like these i thank the fact i was born in the other side of the atlantic ocean
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Sounds like we have the London mayor here. He said we have to accept terrorism as part of life and not do anything to prevent it otherwise we'll upset the terrorists.
Why do western countries have to change to suit the immigrants? The US has to change to suit illegals, muslim immigrants, and all manner of non-American people. The same here in Europe, but it's far worse here.
!!!! Americans are immigrants … They stole the country from the american indians and slaughtered most of them and totally destroyed their culture ... Think before you make these ignorant statements ... And the London mayor certainly didn't say we shouldn't do anything against terrorism !!! ... You need to grow up and stop listening to the sensationalist press
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Sounds like we have the London mayor here. He said we have to accept terrorism as part of life and not do anything to prevent it otherwise we'll upset the terrorists.
Why do western countries have to change to suit the immigrants? The US has to change to suit illegals, muslim immigrants, and all manner of non-American people. The same here in Europe, but it's far worse here.
!!!! Americans are immigrants … They stole the country from the american indians and slaughtered most of them and totally destroyed their culture ... Think before you make these ignorant statements ... And the London mayor certainly didn't say we shouldn't do anything against terrorism !!! ... You need to grow up and stop listening to the sensationalist press
I'm pretty sure it was the French President who said that we (France) needs to learn to live with terorrism, not the London Mayor.
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It may be been both the French President and the London Mayor who said it. I know the London Mayor said it.
!!!! Americans are immigrants … They stole the country from the american indians and slaughtered most of them and totally destroyed their culture ... Think before you make these ignorant statements ... And the London mayor certainly didn't say we shouldn't do anything against terrorism !!! ... You need to grow up and stop listening to the sensationalist press
Clearly, you ignored everything I said. Now name a muslim country that panders to westerners, like the west panders to muslims.
Throughout history people have invaded and taken lands. Why aren't you screaming about Vlad the Impaler's country no longer exists? Why aren't you screaming about the "native" Americans who invaded other "native" Americans' lands and took them? etc, etc, etc
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Clearly, you ignored everything I said. Now name a muslim country that panders to westerners, like the west panders to muslims.
This. I can't name a single one. islam is not a religion of. countless wars have been fought under the name of allah and countless people have been killed. No religion has grown without this violence. So fuck those cunts off.
The conspiracy theorist in me believes that tich muslim countries not only refuse to accept muslim refugees but encourage them to go to western lands to islamify the world.
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I was a Bernie supporter and I will be voting for Hillary.
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The discussion on here and other forums shows that a large number of gays are becoming anti-Muslim and some may vote for Trump. Maybe all they were interested in was to get all the legal rights and the tide has turned to conservatism. Lesbians are also showing this trend. Twinks for Trump is a funny but real thing too.
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The discussion on here and other forums shows that a large number of gays are becoming anti-Muslim
Do you honestly need graphic visual reminders of why gays are growing hostile to muslims? They are lucky we don't do to them what they do to us.
Then of course there is the general way muslims act toward westerners. "Sexual Emergency" rapes of children, men and women.
Muslims don't even want their fellow muslims, so we have to take them and pander to them.
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The discussion on here and other forums shows that a large number of gays are becoming anti-Muslim
Do you honestly need graphic visual reminders of why gays are growing hostile to muslims? They are lucky we don't do to them what they do to us.
Then of course there is the general way muslims act toward westerners. "Sexual Emergency" rapes of children, men and women.
Muslims don't even want their fellow muslims, so we have to take them and pander to them.
What pandering? Last I checked, the UK occupied many Muslim lands for centuries and exploited their wealth and resources. It is also UK, not US interestingly, that divided and ruled the Middle East, the brunt of which is now being borne by all.
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I guess you glossed over my other posts in this thread.
The west actively removes any reference to muslim/islam when they do anything wrong, like with the McDonald's killer in France.
Tell me about all the 1,400+ rapes of muslims girls by westerners in muslim countries that the police turned a blind eye to so they wouldn't be deemed to be racist.
Tell me about politicians and others getting in trouble for being "racist" simply for quoting racist comments by westerners.
Tell me of all the non-sharia courts in muslim countries just for westerners.
Tell me about all the muslims countries taking in westerners because western countries refuse to take them.
The west has turned a blind eye to historic/current international law that says refugees must be sheltered in the 1st safe country, not the country with their preferred welfare system.
The west is allowing blatantly obviously adults in through the children's safe harbor programs so they don't seem racist. Questioning anyone's claim that they are 15yo or younger is deemed racist.
The list is never ending in how the west panders to muslims, especially.
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Hillary has defended rape (it's a fact)
Evidence? Or just Breitbart?
In 1975 Clinton defended a man accused of raping a 12 year old girl. She attacked the victim's credibility, and got the charges reduced in a plea bargain. In a taped interview in the 1980's Clinton is heard laughing about getting the man off.
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What is the purpose of this question: Any Trump Supporters here?
Are you trying, or only wishing, to demonstrate that there are no assholes among the gays? Of course, there are, and a lot, I'm afraid. -
Hillary has defended rape (it's a fact)
Evidence? Or just Breitbart?
In 1975 Clinton defended a man accused of raping a 12 year old girl. She attacked the victim's credibility, and got the charges reduced in a plea bargain. In a taped interview in the 1980's Clinton is heard laughing about getting the man off.
Actually You can't really believe anything anymore from just one source.
Check other pages and it shows the whole story with a different view.The same can be said about either candidate.
The problem with most of us is that we want to believe so we do.
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…Hillary has defended rape
Hillary Clinton has never defended rape. She, as a lawyer, defended someone accused of rape. Which is no more defending rape than a lawyer defending someone accused of murder is defending murder.
As someone said above we often just believe what we want to believe.
Sigh
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The discussion on here and other forums shows that a large number of gays are becoming anti-Muslim
Do you honestly need graphic visual reminders of why gays are growing hostile to muslims? They are lucky we don't do to them what they do to us.
Then of course there is the general way muslims act toward westerners. "Sexual Emergency" rapes of children, men and women.
Muslims don't even want their fellow muslims, so we have to take them and pander to them.
What pandering? Last I checked, the UK occupied many Muslim lands for centuries and exploited their wealth and resources. It is also UK, not US interestingly, that divided and ruled the Middle East, the brunt of which is now being borne by all.
Name the mulsim countries in the middle east that England invaded and caused this mess.
That's a handful of countries at best. You know who did cause a mess in the middle east? muslims.I can however name you multiple countries where muslims are the reason for a mess:
Russia with the chechen
China with the Uyghurs
India with it's own muslim population forever causing issues, not to mention the shithole known as pakistan nextdoor harboring terrorists like Osama.
Myanmar with the rohingyas
All of Europe where the crusades were fought, with Spain copping it a bit, with muslims breeding into their gene pool.
France accepting muslim immigrants and the ungrateful cunts repay them with terrorism.muslim's don't accept multiculturalism. There ideologies are to either kill infidels, convert infidels or breed more of their own. They don't even care for variations of their own religion. sunni's, shias, ahmadis, kurds, sufis etc etc there is no love lost between them.
And last but not least muslims dont give a shit about homosexuals and those of you supporting those douchebags are very deluded. you will be stoned to death no questions asked.
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I honestly don't understand how Trump has gotten as far as he has. What bothers me most about this election is that I've lost respect for some people that I never for a second thought had such disgusting thoughts in their head. It also bothers me how quickly we use the American people have forgotten that our country was founded because of things like religious intolerance we are a country immigrants and if you want to be completely accurate not even technically our country but wasn't we came here and we stole it from the indigenous people. That's not liberal thinking that's historical fact.
Trump supporters are making excuses for him being a racist, misogynistic, homophobic, hatemonger and very likely a sexual predator. All because they don't want Hillary Clinton as the next president. I'm not saying their is or isn't any reasons to dislike her but and this is my opinion the man Donald J. Trump has shown himself to be is something I don't even want to socialize with let alone represent me and this country on the global forum. People already have issue with Americans some rightfully so others exaggerated. Donald Trump personifies what is hated by people outside the United States. Electing him simply confirms it. It bothers me that my country on November 8th could say this is who we have chosen out of our population who is best to lead us and represent us. Some people think that Donald Trump's presidency we'll Before years of his lips moving and nothing happening. What I think people are neglecting to realize isn't how easily he offends us what's good happen when he insults of foreign dignitaries we're someone who we don't have the best relations with? Or how about when he pisses somebody off who has nuclear capabilities? Or more likely when one of them pisses him off. We've already seen that he is quick to act without thinking. Apparently some people think it's a good idea to give a child having a temper tantrum Nuclear pass code.
And the people who are talking about voting third-party I really truly hope they have looked into the third party candidates namely Jill Stein and Gary Johnson. And I mean done more than just read their website bios and what they stand for. For example Gary Johnson short tempered and childish. The man may have some relatively decent ideas however he hasn't know clue whatsoever how to execute any of them and when pressed on the situation he tells people that they're looking to hard! Not to mention and maybe this is just my opinion but I want the person representing this country to be aware of what's going on in the world in the name of foreign leaders. Maybe he just gets nervous being in camera the problem there is as the president he'd have cameras on him a lot.
Jules Stein I can't honestly say I know anything about where she stands because she tells everybody exactly what they want to hear. She tells 9/11 conspiracy theorists that basically she greeted them and it needs to be looked into. She's a doctor passing a PhD I mean MD a medical doctor and yet she has no clue training knowledge base on vaccines and if they do or do not cause autism. Really? She did general medicine which means she would've been giving vaccinations. Maybe it's just me but if I was the doctor and there was stories going around a medication that I give people could be causing autism I would look into it before administering it again. Furthermore she wants to forgive all student debt, while I'd love for mine to go away but here is the problem there are checks and balances in place to prevent the President from abusing their power. Creating money out of nothing is abusing your power. There's a part of me that wants to call the woman a fucking idiot but I can't really do that because I have no idea what she actually thinks or believes because she's just so busy telling people what they want to hear that I don't know where she stands on anything. You have to be relatively intelligent to get through medical school I know it's not easy but then again maybe she left medicine because it was to hard. More likely she got chastised one too many times for telling her patients what they wanted to hear rather than what they need to hear.
So that leaves us Hillary Clinton. And honestly I think she's getting a bad rap even the things that they've proven she hasn't done people still blame her for even though she's not solely responsible everyone makes her out to be a monster because that is what the Republican Party wanted. They wanted someone's head to roll what happened in Benghazi and Hillary Clinton while not solely responsible took the blame. And I'm sorry the people need to stop using what Bill Clinton did as reason for why she shouldn't be president. She's running not him! Is she my first choice? No but Michelle Obama and/or Britney Spears don't have aspirations for the White House. And sends Hillary Clinton's presidency the Ford eight years wouldn't include being in the pocket of another government nor would it include overturning landmark decisions by the Supreme Court that will actually turn people into second-class citizens. I have flip flopped this election and have dont more research than I ever did in all my years of school. Sorry this is so long but I haven't really shared my thoughts on this election and once I started writing they poured out. The last thing I want to say is everyone is entitled to their own opinions and beliefs these just happened to be mine. If People wish to discuss them I'm happy to do so, as long as it remains respectful I will not argue with anyone
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citizens from other countries ought to have the right to vote in the US election, because who americans elect has such powerful consequences on the rest of the world. electing trump would be much worse than bush, if that is even imaginable. so please vote for hillary, even if she is not ideal. she's by far the best on offer, both for the US and for the rest of us around the globe.
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