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I'm just curious - how do you feel about British tourists coming to places like Spain, Turkey, Greece, Cuba, Malaysia, Hong Kong etc to escape the terrible British weather and staying at resorts set up especially for them, where they can sit by the pool and eat fish and chips, without the burden of having to experience any of the local culture? I am genuinely curious.
My husband's sister and brother-in-law are actually expats working in Hong Kong. They're lovely, but they pretty much stay inside the expat community, only make friends with white people, don't speak the local language and eat mostly food imported from Britain. They make a lot of money by working in Hong Kong, though.
It's not the same thing. There are no special laws made to give the expats special rights.
In fact, if you've paid attention, several countries take advantage by doing land grabs from the expats. We've seen this, especially with Spain and Mexico.
I'm one of those liberals who hates hypocrites.
Other countries haven't pandered to Western immigrants because the Western immigrants have just killed all round them and overrun the places. Australia, New Zealand, Canada, USA… but the best example of it is probably apartheid in South Africa.
A lot of those Mexicans you mention have Native American ancestry. Many Trump supporters in the USA are having nightmares at the thought of whites losing their dominance/privilege, and that's just hilarious.
So you are crying about historic things. Ok, let's play that game. Where's your whine about all the western borders that have changed?
Where's your whine about Palestine?
Where's your whine about all the legally bought property that was then "land grabbed" by the government? Spain and Mexico are well known to do this to foreigners.
Oh yeah, and I take it that you believe that no non-western (white) people have ever taken over someone else's land. Read the bible and the quran and you will see that is not true. Both books brag about their peoples going on rampages through the middle east killing everyone they come across. Africa and the middle east have always been hot bed of fighting over land.
South Africa and most other African countries are very hostile to whites. If we are honest, the colonized African countries were running well when the western governments left them. Now they are shit holes. Uganda, for example, went to shit in less than a decade after it was independent. This is the pattern for all the African countries.
Like most liberals, you probably blame whites for slavery, but we have records showing it has existed since 6,000+BC and it's still going today.
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Trump supporter here. How anyone could vote for Hillary with her political track record and covering up all of Bills rapes is beyond me.
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I'm just curious - how do you feel about British tourists coming to places like Spain, Turkey, Greece, Cuba, Malaysia, Hong Kong etc to escape the terrible British weather and staying at resorts set up especially for them, where they can sit by the pool and eat fish and chips, without the burden of having to experience any of the local culture? I am genuinely curious.
My husband's sister and brother-in-law are actually expats working in Hong Kong. They're lovely, but they pretty much stay inside the expat community, only make friends with white people, don't speak the local language and eat mostly food imported from Britain. They make a lot of money by working in Hong Kong, though.
It's not the same thing. There are no special laws made to give the expats special rights.
In fact, if you've paid attention, several countries take advantage by doing land grabs from the expats. We've seen this, especially with Spain and Mexico.
I'm one of those liberals who hates hypocrites.
Other countries haven't pandered to Western immigrants because the Western immigrants have just killed all round them and overrun the places. Australia, New Zealand, Canada, USA… but the best example of it is probably apartheid in South Africa.
A lot of those Mexicans you mention have Native American ancestry. Many Trump supporters in the USA are having nightmares at the thought of whites losing their dominance/privilege, and that's just hilarious.
So you are crying about historic things. Ok, let's play that game. Where's your whine about all the western borders that have changed?
Where's your whine about Palestine?
Where's your whine about all the legally bought property that was then "land grabbed" by the government? Spain and Mexico are well known to do this to foreigners.
Oh yeah, and I take it that you believe that no non-western (white) people have ever taken over someone else's land. Read the bible and the quran and you will see that is not true. Both books brag about their peoples going on rampages through the middle east killing everyone they come across. Africa and the middle east have always been hot bed of fighting over land.
South Africa and most other African countries are very hostile to whites. If we are honest, the colonized African countries were running well when the western governments left them. Now they are shit holes. Uganda, for example, went to shit in less than a decade after it was independent. This is the pattern for all the African countries.
Like most liberals, you probably blame whites for slavery, but we have records showing it has existed since 6,000+BC and it's still going today.
Historic? What's historic about it? - white Europeans are still emigrating in large numbers to those countries whilst at the same time complaining of immigrants in their home countries.
The irony of Americans complaining of Muslim immigrants when Muslims have been in land that is the US from at least the 16th Century - and white Australians complaining of Asian immigration when they themselves are immigrants. You couldn't make it up. They judge themselves by a different, privileged, standard.
"Like most liberals, you probably…" - keep making assumptions, I don't care.
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Trump supporter here. How anyone could vote for Hillary with her political track record and covering up all of Bills rapes is beyond me.
Only one person in the race is up in court over rape allegations and it's not Bill.
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Historic? What's historic about it? - white Europeans are still emigrating in large numbers to those countries whilst at the same time complaining of immigrants in their home countries.
The irony of Americans complaining of Muslim immigrants when Muslims have been in land that is the US from at least the 16th Century - and white Australians complaining of Asian immigration when they themselves are immigrants. You couldn't make it up. They judge themselves by a different, privileged, standard.
"Like most liberals, you probably…" - keep making assumptions, I don't care.
Are "those countries" making special laws to pander to the white people?
A few slaves dotted through the last 400 years doesn't make the US a muslim land.
So, if whites are evil for doing it, does that make non-whites evil for doing it too? If not, you are a hypocrite.
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Probably Caitlyn Jenner!
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Hey guys, can we keep it down to a dull roar?
Pro-Trump and anti-Trump are unlikely to agree about anything but let's not sling epithets
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Elect Ron Jeremy
Because if the country is going to be screwed, at least it should be done professionally! -
Can't stand Trump, but I despise Hillary. She is the Queen of Hypocrites.
Anyone who defends her automatically goes on a list of people I can't take seriously.
Trump is a joke, but she's pure evil. -
You can't stump the Trump
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Can't stand Trump, but I despise Hillary. She is the Queen of Hypocrites.
Anyone who defends her automatically goes on a list of people I can't take seriously.
Trump is a joke, but she's pure evil.Well that show's how much you know about Hillary and that is nothing, because the right wing crap you have been brain washed with, and I know that because you use the same tired characterizations of her that they do. But for you to also immediately dismiss anyone who defenbds her shows what a closed minded person you are, and likely incapable of having a civilized political debate with someone and respecting their views while disagreeing. That is just like Trump and what is wrong with our country right now.
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Are "those countries" making special laws to pander to the white people?
Yes! When the white people overrun the country, outnumbering the native people of course they establish themselves as the establishment.
That's why the Maori have had to go to court to get land back that was illegally taken from them - that's still ongoing after decades.
In the US, the government still decides the fate of many elements of Native American lives.
Up until the 60s Aborigines were considered 'flora and fauna' and they are still marginalised to a great extent in their own country, by white immigrants.
So, if whites are evil for doing it, does that make non-whites evil for doing it too? If not, you are a hypocrite.
Doing what too? Give me an example of where non-white people have done an equivalent?
If the population of the UK became 85% Asian in a short space of time, British culture, and language, was totally eroded of course I'd think that was wrong. Has that happened?
South Africa and most other African countries are very hostile to whites.
Of course they're hostile, many people in SA have a living memory of living under Apartheid - how can they not be bitter about it? If you, your parents or grandparents suffered under a regime like Apartheid would you think it was nothing?
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So we have Hillary and we can 90% assume with confidence she'll just continue Obama's policies in terms of economic, foreign policy… She's corrupt as fuck but FAR from the point of Thailand, Russia corrupt. She has flip flopped a lot in terms of her views but I never said she was a good candidate: she's horrible.
But I can't take people seriously if they'd rather someone incompetent running the country vs someone corrupt. Trump has zero clue about foreign policy. He thinks Mexicans border crossers are primarily rapists and criminals, he's been quoted saying to "attack terrorists by attacking their families". He's been saying so much racist, sexist shit not just "caught on camera" but in his supposedly planned, thought out interviews. He legitimately holds these views. I can't believe how people defend him by saying "he didn't actually mean that".
Trump has consistently failed to actually explain what his policies actually involve. He has avoided absolutely EVERY question about the specifics of his policy everywhere and every time he's asked it is the weakest parts of his in the debates, in the nominations etc.
His build a wall plan is very funny and very big and flashy but anybody can see it's hugely impractical. Yet he always pushes that slogan "We're gonna build a wall and we're gonna make Mexico pay for it". So people say, "That's just a metaphor." Well, what is his actual policy? He has never answered up till this date. -
First and foremost if Mr Trump is elected along with his homophobic side kick Mr Pence :afr: :crazy2: :afr: America is DOOMED. If you vote for this troubling twosome you are a special kind of stupid. Second, can someone explain what exactly has Hill done that makes her so corrupt and horrible. Facts not Fox stories please. Third, It kinda boggles the mind why a large chunk of Americans think Obama has been a terrible President. Does anyone remember what he walked into thanks to 8 yrs of Bush and DICK. Sure he wasn't perfect, no President has ever been perfect. He did however pull the country out of the ditch it was in ( the numbers don't lie, Fox news does) even with the do NOTHING congress, worst in history and the real problem of the last 8 yrs, FACT! Anyways, please don't fuck it up and vote Trump. The world is watching. Peace out
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Are "those countries" making special laws to pander to the white people?
Yes! When the white people overrun the country, outnumbering the native people of course they establish themselves as the establishment.
That's why the Maori have had to go to court to get land back that was illegally taken from them - that's still ongoing after decades.
In the US, the government still decides the fate of many elements of Native American lives.
Up until the 60s Aborigines were considered 'flora and fauna' and they are still marginalised to a great extent in their own country, by white immigrants.
So you only care about it when whites do it to non-whites. That smacks of racism.
You still haven't shown any non-western countries that have pandered to the western people. I see you dodging it, though.
Show me a non white country that panders to whites, the way the west panders to everyone else. It can't be done because it does not happen.
So, if whites are evil for doing it, does that make non-whites evil for doing it too? If not, you are a hypocrite.
Doing what too? Give me an example of where non-white people have done an equivalent?
If the population of the UK became 85% Asian in a short space of time, British culture, and language, was totally eroded of course I'd think that was wrong. Has that happened?
There are plenty of areas throughout the UK where English isn't the spoken language and British culture is non existent.
The government turned a blind eye for 20 years while a group of muslim men raped over 1,400 white girls, because they didn't want to be seen as racists.
South Africa and most other African countries are very hostile to whites.
Of course they're hostile, many people in SA have a living memory of living under Apartheid - how can they not be bitter about it? If you, your parents or grandparents suffered under a regime like Apartheid would you think it was nothing?
Ok, so you support blacks being hostile toward whites in Africa. Do you support non muslims being hostile toward muslims since it's living memory of islamic terrorism?
I'm sure you would support being hostile toward catholics because of IRA terrorism in living memory.
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So you only care about it when whites do it to non-whites. That smacks of racism.
You still haven't shown any non-western countries that have pandered to the western people. I see you dodging it, though.
Show me a non white country that panders to whites, the way the west panders to everyone else. It can't be done because it does not happen.
You're missing the point - where most white people have gone they have not had the opportunity to be pandered to because they have taken over completely. How can people pander to you when you've already subjugated them?
There are plenty of areas throughout the UK where English isn't the spoken language and British culture is non existent.
The government turned a blind eye for 20 years while a group of muslim men raped over 1,400 white girls, because they didn't want to be seen as racists.
There are plenty of areas of Spain where thousands of British have emigrated, only speak English, go to English theme pubs and essentially set up England with sunnier weather.
The rape culture is worrying but the paedophile culture amongst white men is just as worrying, if not more so.
Casually reading news headlines the past few years there wasn't a few weeks went by where I didn't read about white gangs, or individuals, abusing young children, there was even one group that was spread throughout the UK and did unspeakable things to babies! Not forgetting the Jimmy Saville-style establishment cover up of institutional abuse and the abuse that occurred in religious institutions. I'm all for tackling attitudes to abuse in the Muslim community, but we also need to tackle the same in the white community.
Ok, so you support blacks being hostile toward whites in Africa. Do you support non muslims being hostile toward muslims since it's living memory of islamic terrorism?
I'm sure you would support being hostile toward catholics because of IRA terrorism in living memory.
I can understand why people are hostile to Muslims but I can also understand why Muslims are hostile to Westerners. If you live in a bubble where only Westerners have put up with terrorism then you're living in a fantasy land. There's been plenty of terrorism put upon many hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of Muslim civilians.
I'm sure you would support being hostile toward catholics because of IRA terrorism in living memory.
In Northern Ireland there is plenty of blame to go on both sides. The IRA terrorised Unionists and the UK government colluded with loyalist paramilitaries to terrorise Catholics, and there was much institutional marginalisation of Catholics in terms of housing and jobs.
But there was a lot of hostility aimed towards Catholics in the 70s and 80s in England.
Thankfully, in that case, the lesson was learned that to blame a whole community for the acts of a small number of people, was wrong.
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Thankfully, in that case, the lesson was learned that to blame a whole community for the acts of a small number of people, was wrong.
Damn, you're comical.
You're missing the point - where most white people have gone they have not had the opportunity to be pandered to because they have taken over completely. How can people pander to you when you've already subjugated them?
You are still dodging.
Name a muslim country that has set up a special court system for westerners, to pander to us.
Tell me about the courts in Israel that were set up to pander to non jews.
Tell me about the special laws set up post 9/11 to protect non muslims in muslim countries.
Tell me about media blackouts in non western countries about crimes committed by westerners.
There are plenty of areas of Spain where thousands of British have emigrated, only speak English, go to English theme pubs and essentially set up England with sunnier weather.
And Spain frequently does land grabs from those British people.
I bet the Brits in Spain aren't on Spain's welfare roles and treating Spaniards like crap.
I bet those Brits also don't have special rights in Spain.
Polygamy is illegal in the UK unless you're muslim. There are no British courts in Spain.
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Can't stand Trump, but I despise Hillary. She is the Queen of Hypocrites.
Anyone who defends her automatically goes on a list of people I can't take seriously.
Trump is a joke, but she's pure evil.Well that show's how much you know about Hillary and that is nothing, because the right wing crap you have been brain washed with, and I know that because you use the same tired characterizations of her that they do. But for you to also immediately dismiss anyone who defenbds her shows what a closed minded person you are, and likely incapable of having a civilized political debate with someone and respecting their views while disagreeing. That is just like Trump and what is wrong with our country right now.
LOL, you are the one who is brainwashed, and no, I'm not right wing. Hillary has defended rape (it's a fact) went after women who came out over her pervert husband (documented) failed to do her job on multiple occasions and is involved in so many scandals it's ridiculous. I can't have "civilized" discussions with Hillary supporters because they can't be civilized if they do research and still support her.
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would you rather someone who is terrible and competent or terrible and incompetent?
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