Have you ever met some muslims who come out?
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I'm a muslim and I had tried to came out .. The result is terrifying and luckily I managed to reduce the catastrophe and out of the radar (bullies). What have I learned ?… In a muslim country like Moderate Malaysia, you don't have to shout that you're a gay. Just relax.. no one bother if two men live together. Just don't cross dress and do public display affection (PDA). I know people get satisfaction for being able to express them selves but.. this population will never accept "sexuality is not a choice".
That's the problem with those 'olier-than-thou, condemning the gays but seek for lesbian porn smh ::)
As for my experience, I expose myself indirectly to my colleagues, you know… those typical gay stereotypes but never publicly said that I'm gay. Not trying to be narcissistic, but I am quite good looking (as most of gays too), thus by indirectly exposing myself like that, I don't have to deal with girls who are seeking a chance for a relationship should I didn't expose myself
And so far so good.
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I am Muslim. And I find it very difficult to come out and doesn not necessarily to be out as long as you don't do something prominent. Indonesia, being a country which the majority of people are Muslim, they don't really accept homosexuality and heavily despise it. If you do, there's a high chance that they will judge and reject you because they think it's wrong. There are only a few of them who tolerate gays. My best friend and his girlfriend are some of them and they're Christians.
Due to this, I still haven't come out to my parents. They'll be sure disappointed if they find out…
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I have a Muslim friend who came out to his parents when he was around 20. They initially had a negative reaction to it but mellowed gradually. They're now at the point that, while I'm sure they'd prefer him to be with a woman, they accept his (also Muslim) partner and treat him as part of the family.
This is a guy who like me, lives in the UK. His experience is that younger people in the Muslim community are more likely to be accepting of his gayness than those who are older. In that respect, that's pretty much the same pattern as found in the general populous.
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I'm a muslim and I had tried to came out .. The result is terrifying and luckily I managed to reduce the catastrophe and out of the radar (bullies). What have I learned ?… In a muslim country like Moderate Malaysia, you don't have to shout that you're a gay. Just relax.. no one bother if two men live together. Just don't cross dress and do public display affection (PDA). I know people get satisfaction for being able to express them selves but.. this population will never accept "sexuality is not a choice".
Same here in Indonesia. They are still heavily intolerant of LGBT and think that they must be eliminated, despite the fact that Islam never promote violence. It's kinda sad really…
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I have a few muslim friends that came out. It was no easy ride and caused a lot of drama for a few years. One of them was a real horror story however after a few years things have settled down with all of them and their family's now accept it. The friend who had the real horror story would tell you the end result was well worth the stress during the process.
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why would be out and Muslim be any different than say out and catholic or out and mormon , out and hindu or Jew ?
That's a good question..
;D
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I mean I'm in Pakistan and I'm out to basically everyone I know apart from my dad (mom was hard but she's cool now). It's more the fear that you give yourself than the people around you
Im a little surprised that PakistanS hasn't blocked gay websites such as this seeing that youtube was (is?) blocked. Stay safe none the less.
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I have had some muslims. But no one has had a coming out. They have a problem to be gay as a muslim. Every time they think about religion and sex. They are unhappy about that. They want to change that but the religion is "strong".
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Not yet be interesting though
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I have several friends in Algeria and they cannot come out to the family or anyone else. The religion is just set up too strongly against this.
It would be the same for a Mormon in the US.
I think it is bad enough when society says we are wrong but when they try to sell you the idea that God thinks so too, that is way too much -
I am from India. Some of my friends who are gay have parents who have accepted them. But mine haven't. The social and political situation will never change. Heck even America is filled with many people who are racist gay haters and yall know it's the truth, so there is no hope for any change happening here or any of the other countries.
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Well I'm Turkish myself and a Muslim. And i don't really want to come out to my family or so.. My sister found it out some years ago and i don't know how.. i don't bother eather where she find it out.. but her reactions was terrible.. she said i'm sick and i need to turn into my religion and pray that it'll change it somehow..
besides that my sister should be more open to it because she's "the younger generation" but when she's like that i don't want to know my parents.. i think they would hunt me or something like that.. they wouldn't accept it. but my dad said some years ago that in turkey and other muslim countries exists many homosexuals we don't get it; just because they're hiding itselfs,.. how he know that? dunno ^^
Edit: umm and i am from austria.. ^^ -
I'm a muslim and I had tried to came out .. The result is terrifying and luckily I managed to reduce the catastrophe and out of the radar (bullies). What have I learned ?… In a muslim country like Moderate Malaysia, you don't have to shout that you're a gay. Just relax.. no one bother if two men live together. Just don't cross dress and do public display affection (PDA). I know people get satisfaction for being able to express them selves but.. this population will never accept "sexuality is not a choice".
Same here in Indonesia. They are still heavily intolerant of LGBT and think that they must be eliminated, despite the fact that Islam never promote violence. It's kinda sad really…
it is utterly obscene to say that islam and its pedo prophet never promote violence. ISIS, Taleban, Lashkar e taiba, hizbt u tahr,…. anever ending list of fanatic extremist islamists and you dare say islam is peacefull. it is the worst cancer plaguing this earth.
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I'm a muslim and I had tried to came out .. The result is terrifying and luckily I managed to reduce the catastrophe and out of the radar (bullies). What have I learned ?… In a muslim country like Moderate Malaysia, you don't have to shout that you're a gay. Just relax.. no one bother if two men live together. Just don't cross dress and do public display affection (PDA). I know people get satisfaction for being able to express them selves but.. this population will never accept "sexuality is not a choice".
Same here in Indonesia. They are still heavily intolerant of LGBT and think that they must be eliminated, despite the fact that Islam never promote violence. It's kinda sad really…
it is utterly obscene to say that islam and its pedo prophet never promote violence. ISIS, Taleban, Lashkar e taiba, hizbt u tahr,…. anever ending list of fanatic extremist islamists and you dare say islam is peacefull. it is the worst cancer plaguing this earth.
as bad a cancer as the hindus and the christians
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islam has just as many gays as any other religion or non-religion does; but.. yea it's a big issue. but I've met gay muslims that said they would "take the good things from islam and combine it with common sense". not all muslims are stuck the year 0.
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its harder for them…. so strict !!!
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Hey there! Ex-Muslim (now atheist) here living in SE Asian country where apostasy is illegal and you will be sent to brainwash camp should you renounce your Muslim faith publicly. Here the Malays are forced to be Muslims and no, you CANNOT change your religion no matter what even though you are not practicing it (thus most of them fled the country…)
Problem with Islam is that there are a lot of extremists out there, you should watch what ISIS did with gays... they threw them from tall building! Even the so-called moderates mostly not really moderate at all, you will never see them condemning what ISIS did with gays, heck some of them even support that. Blame the brainwashing since kids tho...
So yeah... I guess I will remain in closet (only come out to my close friends) for my safety...
THIS!!!
Same here in Indonesia. They are still heavily intolerant of LGBT and think that they must be eliminated, despite the fact that Islam never promote violence. It's kinda sad really…
And definitely also this!!! It's despicable to see some people using religions as an excuse for their hatred towards something 'different' to them. Worst, it's somewhat a norm in Indonesia, a country filled with religious fanatics who in actuality, barely understand the teaching of their religions.
I do have a feeling that most SE Asian countries, not just one with Moslems as majority (like Indonesia, Malaysia) are basically similar though. Phillipines might seem more open and liberal, but their Catholics condemn LGBT folks harshly too. At least from what I have heard. I had a feeling actual Middle East countries (like Turkey, Pakistan, etc) are actually more liberal and accepting when it comes to this. Of course, more doesn't mean it's way easier. Just 'more flexible'.
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it is utterly obscene to say that islam and its pedo prophet never promote violence. ISIS, Taleban, Lashkar e taiba, hizbt u tahr,…. anever ending list of fanatic extremist islamists and you dare say islam is peacefull. it is the worst cancer plaguing this earth.
Actually… I have to disagree with you. And I'm not trying to defend Islam or anything, because I myself is not a Moslem. From what I gather (personal experience too), those extremists just do NOT understand the true teaching of their religions. In fact, they are abusing their own religion, claiming it to be the source of their radical actions, when in actuality, they are only servicing their own personal anger and hatred. True Islam IS peaceful, and how can I tell that? From the few people around me whom I've known throughout my entire life. Ones who actually KNOW and practice their beliefs properly if not devotedly. Many times the fanatics made me want to hate Islam, I'm not gonna lie about that. But when I'm reminded of these good Moslem people who never once do me harm, and are sometime more noble than ones from my own religion, I choose to reject that hatred. Succumbing to hatred would be just a prove anyway, that what these fanatics desire (chaos, separation, division, anger, hatreds) has been accomplished. And I refuse to give them such pleasure.
as bad a cancer as the hindus and the christians
Agree. Because IMHO, it all comes back to the person and the darkness in their heart. It's never really about the religions. Because a true religion promotes LOVE, and not hatred.
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Hey there! Ex-Muslim (now atheist) here living in SE Asian country where apostasy is illegal and you will be sent to brainwash camp should you renounce your Muslim faith publicly. Here the Malays are forced to be Muslims and no, you CANNOT change your religion no matter what even though you are not practicing it (thus most of them fled the country…)
Problem with Islam is that there are a lot of extremists out there, you should watch what ISIS did with gays... they threw them from tall building! Even the so-called moderates mostly not really moderate at all, you will never see them condemning what ISIS did with gays, heck some of them even support that. Blame the brainwashing since kids tho...
So yeah... I guess I will remain in closet (only come out to my close friends) for my safety...
I know Malaysia, I worked there for two years. Malays are not forced to be Moslem. There are many Christians, Hindu's and Buddhists there too. Much better to say that Malays born Moslem are brought up as Moslem and yes it is severely frowned upon if you want to give up your faith etc.
I knew gay Malays of all faiths. I have to say though that it was only the Islamic guys who had the fear of God put on them if they were caught. In Malaysia, I saw many moslem gay guys obviously in a relationship, though that was in the more enlightened areas such as Kuala Lumpur (where there is a brilliant gay scene) and on Sarawak and Sabah where the religious communities mix more than on the mainland.
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Not really
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