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    Will the refugees crisis in europe destroy the future there?

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      kumar777
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      i'm very much sure that terrorists are hidden among these mostly arab economic migrants who will destroy europe.sick of quranimals.

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        altoids582
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        @achro:

        LOL, of course it won't.

        There aren't enough migrants to make any substantial impact. This whole thing has been blown out of proportion by fuck-witted racists.
        Same thing as with the holocaust and all the gay-hate in Russia and christianised African countries. Hating is so damn easy.

        I'm not claiming that this wave of migrants won't cause ANY problems, but saying that it will destroy Europe is pure BS.

        The Muslim world is clashing with the "western world" because of their outdated beliefs. So how can their views be changed? Surely not by alienation, threats and violence.

        The people that argue against 'alienating' the migrants often seem to argue that it's appropriate to respect their beliefs over those of locals.

        When you have people like those in Sweden's government that argue that their country has no culture (while arguing that there's a need to respect Muslim's culture), I think there is a genuine sign of disrespect amongst many in Europe about what makes their countries what they are, which doesn't create a climate where people migrating would feel the need to assimilate. Just the opposite, those coming over would be told over and over that their culture is superior and deserves special consideration. When the people at Charlie Hebdo were killed there actually were quite a few that argued that they brought it on themselves by disrespecting Muslims. It sounds insane, but Muslims have been getting special consideration for a while now, and it's even leading to places like the BBC overlooking terrorists (those confirmed to have worked for terrorist groups) that are going into Europe right now as migrants.

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          alibix
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          This is a pretty good video about the topic, it's short too.
          Youtube Video

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            YenamMan
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            Wow why are you all so racist and hateful towards Muslims?  😠

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              4west
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              @YenamMan:

              Wow why are you all so racist and hateful towards Muslims?  😠

              Islam isn't a race.
              And it doesn't surprise you that people on a gay-related site might be just a little bit critical of a religion that regularly punishes people for being gay?

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                altoids582
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                @alibix:

                This is a pretty good video about the topic, it's short too.
                Youtube Video

                I've seen this video before, the sources are ludicrous. Wikipedia for instance, is not a source, it's a website constantly edited by people that have an axe to grind. Even articles about Power Rangers can end up massively flawed because some editor on Wikipedia decided their view was the right one and wouldn't dare let anyone else try to argue otherwise. The 'regular' sources that are otherwise used are also about as slanted as if you were trying to do a piece on black people using papers written by KKK members.

                There's also just no civil war in Syria, it's a proxy war.

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                  altoids582
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                  @4west:

                  @YenamMan:

                  Wow why are you all so racist and hateful towards Muslims?  😠

                  Islam isn't a race.
                  And it doesn't surprise you that people on a gay-related site might be just a little bit critical of a religion that regularly punishes people for being gay?

                  It wasn't long ago that Sweden Democrats actually made a show of this in their country by conducting a small gay pride parade through a predominately Muslim neighborhood. It resulted in expectable anti-gay comments and various things being thrown. The reaction in the media was to say it was Islamophobic to do a gay pride parade, apparently because it's only to be expected that Muslims hate gays.

                  The simple fact is, those people in the middle east often hate gays, are violent towards women, and really hate Jews. Going to another country doesn't suddenly change them as individuals. It's why every country that gets more Muslims coming in from the middle east sees rates of rape increase dramatically, greater levels of antisemitism, and growing antagonism towards gays.

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                    antstorm
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                    @YenamMan:

                    Wow why are you all so racist and hateful towards Muslims?  😠

                    because its the height of fashion right now , and then you get the tired rhetoric of ..Islam isnt a race , well no , it is not , but when people are racially profiled for what people ASSUME their religion may be , then it is racism , there are many muslims here in Australia who mind their own business and carry on with life who are suddenly being vilified for nothing other than being Muslim
                    it sickens me to my stomach that people have not learnt that marginalising a group of people is dangerous , that's what  the Austrians did to my people , blaming them for the economic upheaval eventually sending them to gas chambers , instead of people jumping on the bullshit bandwagon of right wing redneck scare propaganda , go out use your brain and actually meet some people that you think may or may not be your enemy , some of the nicest people ive met have been muslim , yes , homosexuality is against their religion, so what the same applies for all Abrahamic religions , however at no stage have i been made to feel hate or animosity from muslims ive met and they have been some of the most polite and respectful people i know.

                    its time for people to grow the fuck up and stop marginalising , after all if you're gay , you should know what that feels like .

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                      jimmcaaron
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                      no? wtf, how could you honestly ask this…

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                        WackyRabbit
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                        I am at a loss for words.  Where is the compassion for human life?  What if this happen to you and you were the refugee? It sickens me when people only think about themselves.

                        Remember me with smiles and laughter
                        For that's how I will remember you all
                        For if you can only remember with tears
                        Then please don't remember me at all.

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                          kumar777
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                          @4west:

                          @YenamMan:

                          Wow why are you all so racist and hateful towards Muslims?  😠

                          Islam isn't a race.
                          And it doesn't surprise you that people on a gay-related site might be just a little bit critical of a religion that regularly punishes people for being gay?

                          islam will destroy this earth. this cancer is all about converting other people, world domination, persecuting and killing non muslims unwilling to convert, treating women like trash, killing lgbt, following a sick and pedo  blood thirsty, immoral prophet.

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                            WackyRabbit
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                            @kumar777:

                            @4west:

                            @YenamMan:

                            Wow why are you all so racist and hateful towards Muslims?  😠

                            Islam isn't a race.
                            And it doesn't surprise you that people on a gay-related site might be just a little bit critical of a religion that regularly punishes people for being gay?

                            islam will destroy this earth. this cancer is all about converting other people, world domination, persecuting and killing non muslims unwilling to convert, treating women like trash, killing lgbt, following a sick and pedo  blood thirsty, immoral prophet.

                            Seriously!!!  Look back in the history of the Catholic faith, Christianity and you will the same. History is full of all of this with and without faith.

                            Remember me with smiles and laughter
                            For that's how I will remember you all
                            For if you can only remember with tears
                            Then please don't remember me at all.

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                              Neem
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                              I am absolutely disgusted to find here gays defending muslims and calling other racists. First of all islam is not a race its a cancer religion, second- muslims want to kill all gays. When these mudslimes become majority in Europe gays will be the first to be hanged/beheaded so stop protecting them and personally do all you can to preserve western values of freedom and christianity.

                              The left is so desperate to collapse and destroy western white countries but they dont realise muslims will simply force them to convert or kill them.

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                                Valicore
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                                It's not going to destroy the future of Europe, but Europe is going to have a huge problem integrating these refugees, many of which ARE economic migrants. Go to any major city in Europe, London, Paris, Berlin, and you will find huge ghettos of completely unintegrated, mostly Muslim immigrants, who have zero desire to acclimate and integrate, and who believe that they are entitled to the beliefs and ways of life (including hating gays, subjugating women, etc) that caused them to have to leave their countries in the first place. I say start instituting mandatory language classes, mandatory goals for learning the language, require some sort of job or work to be done, limits to be placed on social benefits after a certain amount of time. Give them a chance to show they're willing to integrate, and those who refuse, send home. That's how Europe can continue to prosper and do the right thing in terms of Human Rights. If they are really fleeing death, they will integrate rather than go back to that.

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                                  waratah234
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                                  @WackyRabbit:

                                  I am at a loss for words.  Where is the compassion for human life?  What if this happen to you and you were the refugee? It sickens me when people only think about themselves.

                                  Compassion for human life does not have to involve disregarding a country's security or fabric of society. It's an exaggeration to suggest that those who want stricter immigration/resettlement policies don't care about the situation of Middle Eastern people.

                                  My concern comes from Europe's ability to effectively integrate these migrants/refugees. As you saw with the recent Paris attacks, these assailants actually GREW UP in Europe as second-generation Muslims. Also, their families were not very religious to begin with. Something clearly compelled them to become radicalized. It's clear they all had something in common: poverty, no opportunities to succeed in society, and general distrust by their communities.

                                  My point is, Europe is not doing a good job integrating the families who have lived there for at least a generation. Are we to expect them to pull a miracle with this new wave of migrants?

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                                    bumcum
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                                    Oh yes, the refugee crisis will tear Europe apart.

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                                      altoids582
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                                      @waratah234:

                                      @WackyRabbit:

                                      I am at a loss for words.  Where is the compassion for human life?  What if this happen to you and you were the refugee? It sickens me when people only think about themselves.

                                      Compassion for human life does not have to involve disregarding a country's security or fabric of society. It's an exaggeration to suggest that those who want stricter immigration/resettlement policies don't care about the situation of Middle Eastern people.

                                      My concern comes from Europe's ability to effectively integrate these migrants/refugees. As you saw with the recent Paris attacks, these assailants actually GREW UP in Europe as second-generation Muslims. Also, their families were not very religious to begin with. Something clearly compelled them to become radicalized. It's clear they all had something in common: poverty, no opportunities to succeed in society, and general distrust by their communities.

                                      My point is, Europe is not doing a good job integrating the families who have lived there for at least a generation. Are we to expect them to pull a miracle with this new wave of migrants?

                                      Well said.

                                      But I would not say poverty is that much an issue. Many terrorists actually come from decent middle class families or even quite wealthy families.

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                                        gaypraha2
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                                        yes of course theses migration which are now called by their real name: "invasion" will destroy our lives and culture.
                                        Homosexuals will suffers the dark ages again because of these uneducated religious crazy people. But terrible countries like turkey plays with it: they stole from us 6 billions euro in exchange of "maybe " not letting go the invaders across our borders while at the same time they give this money to ISIS (they buy their oil) which makes people wanting to leave Syria.
                                        most migrants arent war refugee but are young men looking for money from poor countries. We have no job for our educated youth, no apartment, nothing to offer them and have a total different culture. they should go in arabia souadia, quatar and such.. but strangely these countries who have the same culture as them and are very rich refuse them…
                                        and to " achro" : no it's not just few, 113 000 came since january ! that's about 2 millions already.. for comparaison Quebec is 8 millions.. and it's not going to stop soon as africa demographic problem is going to be worse and worse. the whole africa population is going to double in 25 years..

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                                          Matie
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                                          Well said. Islamization of Europe is not going to make life better or safer for gays that is for sure. Most of these so-called refugees are economic migrants. They should be working at home not to make their own countries hellholes. Or once the conflict is over, go back and do this. But this will never happen, since Europe is full of freebies. Islam and western civilization are completely incompatible at the moment.

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