Germany forced to bail out bankrupt countries like Spain and Greece
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**_Germany opposes many solutions adamantly..
I'm afraid that without having a solution for intra-EMU distortions the EU monetary union will collapse sooner or later!
:cry2:_**
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Dependera del gobierno griego que este "cheque" vaya destinado realmente a su fin. Ayudar a las pequeñas empresas para la contratación de gente joven.
http://www.abc.es/internacional/20150320/abci-ayuda-2000-millones-euros-201503201443.html
Personalmente me parece lo más correcto por parte de la UE y ahora que sean los ciudadanos Griegos quienes exijan que esos fondos se gastan bien
Depend on the Greek government that this "check" will really meant to end. Helping small businesses for hiring young people.
Personally I think the right thing by the EU and now that the Greeks are citizens who demand that those funds are well spent
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Every country's government pays way too much for the stuff it buys. The US infamously bought $12,000 toilet seats and £32,000 hammers back in the 1980s, which at any hardware store would have cost less than $15. Haliburton is still screwing the US over on several contracts they have. The UK always gets screwed (purposely it seems) whenever they had a contract with outside companies, especially in construction.
NO government is without it's base of corruption.
You don't have to live in Greece to see where the problems are coming from; mass tax evasion, black market, early retirement, extremely generous work benefits, etc, etc.
Now, as a citizen you are supposed to pay your taxes and in return the greek state is supposed to provide you education, health and public infrastructure but because of all the money grubbing these three sectors were and are crumbling. You have to pay for extra tutoring if you want a dissent education for your child, you have to pay the doctors or a private clinic if you are in need of something that's less than an absolute life-threatening emergency and you also have to compensate in time and money for the bad public infrastructure.
The UK has the same problems and it's been made worse by having to bailout various countries.
It pisses me off that my taxes have gone up, as has the retirement age, while government services are being slashed.
Let's compare Greece's black market (in 2009 figures) with Scotland's school budget (2012/13). Greece's black market cost their country 43.2 Billion Euros per year (very low estimate; see earlier post) and Scotland spends £2.4 Billion a year on schools. Based on population, cost of living, currency conversion and other factors, you can say that Greece's black market tax loss is just shy of 14 times it's budget for school. Of course that doesn't cover the other forms of tax evasion.
Your government's budget is in serious trouble when 25% of it's GDP tax revenue is lost to the black market. Then you need to add in all the other forms of tax evasion and the problem just grows and grows.
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It's true that probity standards in Greece are fairly low. But really if Google and other multinationals were taxed and tax minimisation scaled back, then the tax situation would be fine. The UK has slashed its real taxation of the high end earners significantly over the last 3 decades. In any case, Scotland is substantially subsidized by England, which Scottish Nationalists have only partially forgotten… (thus enabling a Conservative victory at the general election...)
Also, Greece would have been better off not to receive a cent, or barely anything, from the bailouts and avoid austerity. Bankruptcy was the solution, years ago...now there have been years of stagnation and degradation with nothing to show. -
Every country's government pays way too much for the stuff it buys. The US infamously bought $12,000 toilet seats and £32,000 hammers back in the 1980s, which at any hardware store would have cost less than $15. Haliburton is still screwing the US over on several contracts they have. The UK always gets screwed (purposely it seems) whenever they had a contract with outside companies, especially in construction.
NO government is without it's base of corruption.
You don't have to live in Greece to see where the problems are coming from; mass tax evasion, black market, early retirement, extremely generous work benefits, etc, etc.
Now, as a citizen you are supposed to pay your taxes and in return the greek state is supposed to provide you education, health and public infrastructure but because of all the money grubbing these three sectors were and are crumbling. You have to pay for extra tutoring if you want a dissent education for your child, you have to pay the doctors or a private clinic if you are in need of something that's less than an absolute life-threatening emergency and you also have to compensate in time and money for the bad public infrastructure.
The UK has the same problems and it's been made worse by having to bailout various countries.
It pisses me off that my taxes have gone up, as has the retirement age, while government services are being slashed.
Let's compare Greece's black market (in 2009 figures) with Scotland's school budget (2012/13). Greece's black market cost their country 43.2 Billion Euros per year (very low estimate; see earlier post) and Scotland spends £2.4 Billion a year on schools. Based on population, cost of living, currency conversion and other factors, you can say that Greece's black market tax loss is just shy of 14 times it's budget for school. Of course that doesn't cover the other forms of tax evasion.
Your government's budget is in serious trouble when 25% of it's GDP tax revenue is lost to the black market. Then you need to add in all the other forms of tax evasion and the problem just grows and grows.
Extremely working benefits?
Let's compare notes on my working field.
I am a nurse. I work on a clinic of a hospital in Athens. Every shift has a total of two nurses which have to deal with a clinic with 35 (yes, you have red correctly) patients (the least). We do not have the proper material and medicine in order to care for our patients. We are getting paid 800 Euros per month. Quite often we are forced to surpass our working hours in order to help the next shift with the preparation of the medication of the patients. These are hours that we are not going to get paid. We cannot have a single day off and our days of absence for the summer are extremely limited.
Now, as i understand, you are from UK, right?
Can you tell me how are the working conditions in your hospitals?
Be careful what are you going to reply because i have treated a patient from England and he gave me some insights regarding the conditions of your hospitals. -
Nurses, like school teachers, are always treated like crap. The country doesn't matter.
I have private insurance so I don't have to use NHS hospitals for surgeries and whatnot. They are extremely old fashioned and dingy. You're more likely to catch a "super bug" then you are to be healed of your original illness.
Trying to get a normal GP appointment is nearly impossible in many places in the UK.
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Nurses, like school teachers, are always treated like crap. The country doesn't matter.
I have private insurance so I don't have to use NHS hospitals for surgeries and whatnot. They are extremely old fashioned and dingy. You're more likely to catch a "super bug" then you are to be healed of your original illness.
Trying to get a normal GP appointment is nearly impossible in many places in the UK.
Well…
The patient that i treated told me a very different story.
In your clinics, you have at least 5 nurses in every shifts for 15 patients. They can have their days off very easily and they are payed very well (an amount of Britain Pounts that is translated to three thousand Euros).
Many of my classmates have moved away from Greece into other countries in order to pursuit a career in nursing. The first destination was the United Kingdom which they tell me that is a working paradise for nurses. Australia and Germany are other popular destinations. -
"Pool nurses" are paid well by the NHS, but not staff nurses. "Pool nurses" are the ones that come in to covers shortages by staff nurses. All across the UK there are shortages of staff nurses.
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I think they shound't force to bail them is leik if the usa bailed outmexican debt, not fair IMHO
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Well, situation in Greece is critical, Germany wants to re-create Europe by its own standards and build a German Europe but let's be some sort of realistic here: we Greeks are kinda responsible for the Greek austerity. We are a hard working people, despite the fact we're getting paid less for our services than other European countries but we kept on voting for the same "thieves" again and again. Though our monthly salary was low, we wanted to drive two or even three cars, had more cell phones than one, we liked to live in a fake luxurious life etc. etc. If we don't change the way we think then nothing will change for the rest of our lives
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