@justatest90-0 did we already get 2 this 1?

"As Tim Walz Encourages Resistance, Minnesota ‘ICE Watch’ Declares ‘Time Is Ripe To Embrace Militancy’"
https://freebeacon.com/crime/as-tim-walz-encourages-resistance-minnesota-ice-watch-declares-time-is-ripe-to-embrace-militancy/

"We within the belly of this imperial beast face a turning point," [MN ICE Watch said]. "After seven full months during which our protests have utterly failed to slow the gears of the war machine, there is nothing left to do but escalate" (emphasis theirs). "The time is ripe to embrace militancy on the ground, both to keep ourselves safer, and as a demonstration of our commitment to the words ‘by any means necessary.'"

"Miltancy" can only mean pseudo-military violence.

On Wednesday evening [in wake of calls for "miltancy"], Walz told residents [not to calm down, but] to continue resisting ICE...[he said it's] "a campaign of organized brutality against the people of Minnesota by our own federal government."

I don't think you're reading at 100% here. That article pretty clearly says "Minnesota ‘ICE Watch’ Declares ‘Time Is Ripe To Embrace Militancy’" That is: "ICE Watch" said "embrace militancy" not Walz. I also don't see that article quoting Walz saying "resist ICE", the author of that article claims Walz is calling to resist ICE. This is the only quote in that article from Walz:

Let’s be very, very clear: This long ago stopped being a matter of immigration enforcement. Instead, it is a campaign of organized brutality against the people of Minnesota by our own federal government

Nothing in that is a threat of rebellion or a call for escalation. So: so far, the only ACTUAL quote from Walz is a quote we agree is a call for deescalation. You keep throwing random, unrelated quotes from other people, as though that indicts Walz.

AND...... What u worry about little ol' me when I notice it

No, I was worried he threatened rebellion, as I said above. That's why I looked through his tweets and statements, like I said in my initial reply. When I couldn't find it (again, because I was concerned about a governor doing such a horrible thing), I asked you. At the time, I fully expected you to be like, "Oh, here's where he threatened rebellion, <insert quote here>". That has not happened, and in fact the opposite has been established (namely: Walz calling for deescalation).

Now it's more an issue of honor (in this case: your honor) of being willing to retract the claim or substantiate it with an actual Walz quote threatening rebellion. I value, and assume you would value, making statements rooted in truth, with clear evidence to support them. When I err (as we all inevitably do), I try to be forthright in correcting the error. It always stings a bit to say, "oops, I was wrong." But it's not hard, it's part of learning. I remember once hearing "changing your mind is the best way to show you still have one." I view it as part of that process for myself, as well as my honor and duty to my fellow humans, when I err.

All that matters at this point in the conversation (absent a clear, direct quote from Walz threatening rebellion), is this: Do you still have a mind, and the honor to admit Walz had certainly not threatened rebellion when you wrote that?

1. Don Lemon leads violation of USA "FACE act".

USA "FACE act" says, both churches & abortion mills are protected from disruption. Legal jeopardy.

vid - https://x.com/i/status/2012972616693194934

2. "Students" brawl at MN Capitol.

Libs acted way worse than USA "J6"

https://humanevents.com/2026/01/15/anti-ice-high-school-walkout-turns-chaotic-at-minnesota-state-capitol-as-students-begin-brawling

3. Mob gathers for blood of ordinary tech workers.

vid - https://x.com/i/status/2012610307663802819

4. & who do these Antifa mobs / terrorists protect? Child molesters.

with Antifa, it always comes to that

vid - https://x.com/i/status/2012946474770759716

5. @justatest90-0 did we already get 2 this 1?

"As Tim Walz Encourages Resistance, Minnesota ‘ICE Watch’ Declares ‘Time Is Ripe To Embrace Militancy’"

https://freebeacon.com/crime/as-tim-walz-encourages-resistance-minnesota-ice-watch-declares-time-is-ripe-to-embrace-militancy/

"We within the belly of this imperial beast face a turning point," [MN ICE Watch said]. "After seven full months during which our protests have utterly failed to slow the gears of the war machine, there is nothing left to do but escalate" (emphasis theirs). "The time is ripe to embrace militancy on the ground, both to keep ourselves safer, and as a demonstration of our commitment to the words ‘by any means necessary.'"

"Miltancy" can only mean pseudo-military violence.

On Wednesday evening [in wake of calls for "miltancy"], Walz told residents [not to calm down, but] to continue resisting ICE...[he said it's] "a campaign of organized brutality against the people of Minnesota by our own federal government."

It is 1. lies, 2. call to rebellion.

AND...... What u worry about, Sooooooooooo weirdly, is not Walz lies or call to rebellion...... ............but little ol' me when I notice it Congratulations.

6. "NYC socialists mustering army of 4,000 anti-ICE activists to bring Minnesota tactics to Big Apple"

https://nypost.com/2026/01/18/us-news/nyc-socialists-mustering-army-of-4000-anti-ice-activists-to-bring-minnesota-tactics-to-big-apple/

Let's hope

In time, arrests will hit finance networks of libs. Lib billionaires.

3 year old.......you're just plain stupid!

Only more inter-commenter crap.

It's fine, even humorous

just 1 thing: ur supposed to be Moderator........ ..... of what?

Yes, I'm a GOP voter

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see 3rd item under here:

https://community.gaytor.rent/topic/68441/scottish-independence-accounts-go-dark-after-iran-internet-blackout/3

@WikiDude said in Anti-ICE leftists wreck ICE vehicles, loot rifles, dox federal agents on livestream in Minneapolis:

Riddle me this, batman...MORON...you are just ignorant of US culture (or possibly completely stupid

Ugh, the inter-commenter name-calling begins

You incorrectly assume I'm trying to have or start an argument. I was simply making a factual observation: if the expectation of this kind of militaristic ATTACK in US Cities was that US citizens would just lay down "and take it" - then you're a moron!

Not unlike expecting to take a rocket to the moon & not packing enough food, assuming you'll just load up on cheese while you're there!

I won argument

OK - you win. I let my 3 year old grandson win at games too... a very similar situation, wouldn't you agree?

---

Derek Chauvin

....is, btw, innocent of murder.

MUCH evidence was excluded, at his baboon-level show trial.

• Medical report showed, George Floyd died of all that fentanyl & meth George Floyd took, & his congenital heart condition.

• Floyd said "I can't breathe" already while standing up, like drama or telling officers to ignore him.

• Other evidence woulda showed, Derek Chauvin followed training with that knee-on-neck, no way he intended to kill.

They shoulda called ambulance sooner. U could go with negligent-involuntary type manslaughter.

But murder? absurd

I didn't comment on Derek Chauvin's crimes - a jury made a determination, and barring some legal misdoings that get him a new trial, he's been found guilty. Wouldn't be the first innocent found guilty, nor would he be the last. But, for now, the FACT is he's been found guilty of murder. My own opinion (as with yours) is irrelevant to his case.

But also, its irrelevant to my point: the citizens of Minneapolis RIOTED in the streets after that level of police violence. If you expected them to just sit back and accept an escalation - especially to the level ICE is operation at these days - then you're just plain stupid! ("Read the room")

You should also read the part where I said that the GOAL of deporting illegals is 100% spot on... it's not the goal that's got Minnesota (and 1/2 the rest of the country) protesting ICE - it's the TACTICS! Even my new hometown in western NC has had ICE protests!

This is America - and these people are ARMED! On both sides!

The only part of this that wasn't predictable is that more people haven't been killed already (again - on both sides). This isn't Russia or Iran or North Korea - where the populace is going to be forced - even by litary might - into compliance!

This is why the GOP is going to suffer so badly in Nov. I fear it'll be catastrophic and may take a long time for us to recover. (Yes, I'm a GOP voter, even if I despise the authoritarian and self-aggrandizing of our POTUS).

WD

1. GOOD. More Antifa-terrorist arrests. Very good!!

2. ICE has no prob, in normal USA states. Probs r unique to "Sanctuary State".

In normal USA State, ICE works with local courts, picks up criminal migrants at courthouse as they process thru criminal system, no probs.

But "Sanctuary State" means, State has decided to negate USA immigration law, thus rebel against USA & protect worst criminal migrants.

ONLY in "Sanctuary State" are ICE raids normal.

ICE picks up many more horrific criminals, at courthouses of normal USA States. Tens of thousands.

Riddle me this, batman...MORON...you are just ignorant of US culture (or possibly completely stupid

Ugh, the inter-commenter name-calling begins

I won argument

Derek Chauvin

....is, btw, innocent of murder.

MUCH evidence was excluded, at his baboon-level show trial.

• Medical report showed, George Floyd died of all that fentanyl & meth George Floyd took, & his congenital heart condition.

• Floyd said "I can't breathe" already while standing up, like drama or telling officers to ignore him.

• Other evidence woulda showed, Derek Chauvin followed training with that knee-on-neck, no way he intended to kill.

They shoulda called ambulance sooner. U could go with negligent-involuntary type manslaughter.

But murder? absurd

While the locals are still trying to tamp down that level of unrest, you add a new "evil" - ICE ... to rile them back up - one who comes in like Derek Chauvin & pals on PCP! And you expected exactly WHAT response?

I'm not excusing the violent response -neither the one to the
Floyd killing, nor this. Civil disobedience is one thing, even civil unrest is OK in my book - but when it gets to the point of lighting cars and buildings on fire, you're WAY over the line.

But again, I ask you: in the same city that went CRAZY after George Floyd, what kind of MORON expects these same people to "sit quietly and do what you're told."

The desire to "clean out" illegal aliens is not a bad one... our immigration policies in teh US are - and have been for decades, not just under Biden - extremely broken... but the tactics being used are NOT helping, and it's likely to cost the GOP both the House and Senate later this year.

In summary: you can spout off all you want about how bad these people are behaving - but these Nazi-SS-esque tactics are overkill, and are causing more problems than they're solving - and if you couldn't PREDICT this response from Americans, then you are just ignorant of US culture (or possibly completely stupid, and I'm not discounting BOTH possibly being true).

WD

PS: Talking about DOXing ICE agents - a leaked roster of new ICE recruits (new as-in the past year or so, not as-in the last few weeks) looks like a who's-who of Proud Boys - many of which have criminal backgrounds that should have excluded them from ANY Federal Law Enforcement position, much less ICE.
Not saying they can't possibly be good agents, but I am saying that it's adding fuel to the fire. More people will be hurt, if not killed... its NOT going to die down until ICE changes tactics.

I wouldn't try to argue with him

Oh interesting. I mean I wasn't really trying to argue, just understand where Walz "threatened rebellion" because such a bare call to rebellion would be dangerous. But per my previous post, if we can't agree "don't give him violence" means deescalation, I was already moving on.

You want to see how am I right? Dare him to critisize Trump, he will bring Biden, Obama, Clinton, you mother, his neighbor, another incident, another country, anything and anyone except doing this. I've already tried this.

Oh interesting. That's a good barometer for whether someone's "drunk the cool-aid" as they say. Few issues, and no leaders, have spotless records. I'm sure we can all find something disturbing about our preferred party's leaders violating core principles. (Biden: Dramatically undermining transparency w/ the Office of Legal Counsel & weaponizing the Espionage Act; Obama protected the financial elite during the 2008 financial crisis.) That's too bad if true.

I was taught a long time that patriotism isn't, "My country, right or wrong," but rather, "My country, its wrongs to right." If one can't see what's wrong with what its leaders are doing, that's scary.

I'm seeing what's happening from another country and I'm watching this user going down the sink for years in all the worst political brainwash possible.

I wouldn't try to argue with him. He's lost and peo´le in his mental state would say all the ICE agents and their pet politicians are right even if they killed a puppy and a newborn on a live broadcast nationwide, then they would try to blame leftists for this.

Don't even try, it's like arguing with a wall.

You want to see how am I right? Dare him to critisize Trump, he will bring Biden, Obama, Clinton, you mother, his neighbor, another incident, another country, anything and anyone except doing this. I've already tried this.

And if they try will be something lighthearted that barely resembles a critic.

"we both agree he hasn't threatened rebellion" - That is pathetic, gets my upvote becuz it made me laugh at u.

Weird. You seemed to agree with this point:

The only examples I could find called for deescalation, as per my quoted tweet ("Trump/Biden wants violence, don't give them violence").

You think "don't give them violence" is escalation and threatening rebellion? If we can't agree on the plain meaning of words, maybe there's no point.

https://thepostmillennial.com/radical-anti-ice-network-uses-mass-signal-chat-network-license-plate-database-to-track-feds-dispatch-agitators-in-minnesota

Radical anti-ICE networks in Minnesota have been forming "rapid response networks" with various group chats in order to obstruct and prevent ICE from making lawful arrests of criminal illegal immigrants. This comes as there has been a surge of immigration enforcement in the Twin Cities region. A "guide" to these chats and the network also praised throwing rocks at federal agents as well as breaking car windows.

The groups, known as “Rapid Response Networks,” have released a “guide” to their “model” of obstructing immigration enforcement in the Twin Cities on CrimethInc—a leftist website that claims to be a "rebel alliance" think tank that spurs leftist "collective action." The network around the Twin Cities mainly uses Signal chats through a network of "dispatchers" who split the city into different chunks for surveillance of ICE through tracking identifiers such as license plates.

The “patrollers” are those who follow ICE vehicles, and they will sometimes switch off who is following the ICE cars. Some of the license plate information is gathered from radicals in the network who track vehicles going to and from the ICE headquarters “Whipple” building. This group is called “Whipple Watch.”

All of this communication is also translated into different languages, according to the leftist activism group. "Finally, Spanish language relayers copy ICE alerts from dispatch calls and local chats, translate them, then send to large Spanish-language Signal and WhatsApp networks," the website says. [ed: did it activate Raul Gutierrez, of this thread?]

The leftist website then tells others to "learn from" the anti-ICE tactics being used in Minnesota, and says that the fight against ICE is "defined by those who push the envelope. People use their cars and bodies to block agents and de-arrest targeted people [ed: valid suspects]

1. Valid criminal suspect - like gang, cartel, child rapist, stalker

2. who attacked police violently

EVERY time libs make thing, over ICE & some person.

Every time! U dig into case & find that

Why do libs protect these suspects so hard? Source of lib funding, votes, & ground troops for election fraud. (sadly, GOP involved too)

Outline that I can see is: libs are assets - paid or not, knowing or not - of gangs, cartels, child rapists, stalkers.

Who threaten USA with rebellion, riots or terror, when they're cleaned out.

https://x.com/i/status/2012294498479374501

Makes sense.

• MN uses drugs, as much as anyone

• it's big business

• why wouldn't gang-related crimes & death threats be all over MN? Walz isn't known for fighting it

• why wouldn't cartel $$$ be all over both parties, to include Walz & Antifa? They are not known for stopping it

• why wouldn't FBI, CBP & ICE go in - under Trump - to rip out Minnesota narco-state, to extent that it exists? see thread, https://community.gaytor.rent/topic/67016/trump-hits-cartels-which-means-biden-kamabla-predecessors-were-in-their-pockets

• why wouldn't Cartel & gang assets in MN flip out, demonstrate, block, attack, spread biggest possible lies?

I won't bet my life on it........... ...............but I can see mosaic outlines.

Trump makes war on many types of crime, corruption & fraud. & they mesh. & they hit back however they can, be that lies, lawsuits, protests, murders, terror attacks.

https://x.com/Babygravy9/status/2012199377675182102/photo/1

Pick ur outlets but Newsweek had it too

https://www.newsweek.com/chicago-gangs-issue-shoot-on-sight-order-targeting-immigration-officials-11026714

Again, same gang as Raul Gutierrez in Minnesota 2 days ago. What Antifa defends.

"No Kings" indeed

"we both agree he hasn't threatened rebellion" - That is pathetic, gets my upvote becuz it made me laugh at u.

Walz can say mass quantaties of weird lies, intimidate Fed agents, incite Minnesotans to obstruct Fed agents, & pointedly remember times when Minnesota slaughtered soldiers & officials it viewed as invaders (at Gettysburg, South crossed too far north).......

.....& what u worry about, is how, in my opinion, as I see it (but u don't), Walz threatened rebellion.

Walz clearly tries to intimidate Federal agents

Again Walz does not demand, but suggests, armed fighting against USA "Federal" government.

Walz needs to go only a little farther before he can be tried, convicted & then executed for treason against USA.

In spirit of law & fairness, I wouldn't do it yet. I'd watch & wait, but escalate FBI, CBP & ICE ops in Minnesota. Make Walz a legal target in "Somali Fraud" investigation.

ps. You'd like me to retract something.............
.................... but not Walz? Really?

interesting

AFTER Walz threatened rebellion in prior messages.......

I like to do my own research, so tried to find these threats of rebellion, and couldn't. The only examples I could find called for deescalation, as per my quoted tweet ("Trump/Biden wants violence, don't give them violence"). So I went back to you the source, asking for an example of where he threatened rebellion.

You then try to claim that call for deescalation is trying to get violence. I don't see the logic there. But even if it was, it's certainly not a case where he "threatened rebellion."

So do you retract your prior claim?

Picture if JD Vance said:

Biden sent thousands of armed federal officers into our state, and it took just one day for them to kill someone.
Now he wants nothing more than to see chaos distract from that horrific action.
Don’t give Biden what he wants.

Vance didn't. But if he did, it would be clear to any lib: he distorts, even lies, to inflame passions & get violence against lawful Federal agents. As he pretends not to.

OK here's more.

• around Jan 14-15, Walz claimed feds were "just plain grabbing Minnesotans and shoving them into unmarked vans, kidnapping innocent people with no warning and no due process."

FALSE.

Plenty of due process for everybody, as Feds rightfully arrest criminal suspects.

• & described the situation as having "long ago stopped being a matter of immigration enforcement" and instead become "a campaign of organized brutality against the people of Minnesota by our own federal government."

again recklessly, needlessly FALSE.

does not call for, but likely inflames people to, violence against Federal efforts to apprehend criminals (migrant or otherwise).

• Walz urged Minnesotans: "If you see these ICE agents in your neighborhood, take out that phone and hit record." He added: "Help us create a database of the atrocities against Minnesotans, not just to establish a record for posterity, but to bank evidence for future prosecution."

again FALSE as there are no "atrocities" - only criminal arrests where sometimes criminal suspect resists violently & gets shot........

.......plus, Walz clearly tries to intimidate Federal agents (felony!!) with threat of future lawfare.

• Walz claimed ICE agents were "going door-to-door, ordering people to point out where their neighbors of color live," pulling over people indiscriminately (including U.S. citizens) and demanding papers, and at grocery stores, bus stops, or schools "breaking windows, dragging pregnant women down the street, and shoving Minnesotans into unmarked vans."

again FALSE

• & on Jan 8, Walz said "Minnesota's 1st [Volunteer Infantry Regiment] that held that line for the nation [at Gettsburg battle] that July 3, 1863. And I think now we may be in that moment"

Again: Have JD Vance say it in ur mind.

Again Walz does not demand, but suggests, armed fighting against USA "Federal" government.

Walz needs to go only a little farther before he can be tried, convicted & then executed for treason against USA.

In spirit of law & fairness, I wouldn't do it yet. I'd watch & wait, but escalate FBI, CBP & ICE ops in Minnesota. Make Walz a legal target in "Somali Fraud" investigation.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/latin-kings-gang-member-accused-of-vandalizing-fbi-vehicle-stealing-government-property-in-minneapolis/ar-AA1Ukel9

Raul Gutierrez, 33, was arrested Thursday in a joint operation involving the Department of Justice (DOJ) and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF).

The FBI said multiple government vehicles were vandalized and broken into Wednesday night in Minneapolis while agents were responding to a reported assault on a federal officer, adding that federal property [ed: reportedly to include a rifle] was stolen from inside the vehicles.

Attorney General Pam Bondi said the suspect allegedly stole FBI body armor and weaponry, and has a history of violent crimes.

Larger story is, Minnesota chaos may perhaps be USA government vs. cartels & gangs, where Antifa serve as smokescreen.

Walz seems involved with Somali fraud for years: https://community.gaytor.rent/topic/68216/trump-terminates-protected-status-for-somali-nationals-in-minnesota-after-massive-fraudulent-money-laundering-activity-revealed/7

Right as Walz is about to be target of fraud investigation & ICE goes for both Cartel (latin) & Somali criminals in MN, it's chaos. What timing. Who ordered it?

with that chaos & smokescreen on: Perfect time for cartels & gangs to seize weapons & hit Federal agents.

They want to. in Chicago, IL in October, Latin Kings put bounty on USA Border Patrol Chief Gregory Bovino, who lately is involved in Minnesota.

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2025/10/06/latin-kings-gang-member-arrested-illinois-after-placing-hit-commander-large-border

On October 03, 2025, a confidential source provided information indicating a “hit” had been placed on Chief Bovino by a member of the Latin Kings Street Gang. U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) Homeland Security Investigations (HSI) identified the individual who placed the “hit” as Juan Espinoza Martinez and arrested him on October 6, 2025 in Burr Ridge, Illinois.

@justatest90-0 I'll get to ur question later. Thought I had noted a link or 2 but must reconstruct.