Let's see if we can get you to oppose rapists. That would also be new.

Typical liberal making up definitions to suit your agenda.

We only have evidence of Trump going backstage at the adult version.

I am glad that your made-up definition says that hetero women and gay men are groomers. Now you have no reason to complain about Gays Against Groomers unless you support grooming.

That still does not say that he did it with the Miss Teen.
According to Pageant Planet, Miss Teen is 13 to 17.
While 18 and 19 are technically "teenagers" they are legally adults.
As I have pointed out in previous posts, both gay men and hetero women have been shown in photos of young male models in various states of undress backstage at fashion shows. No one seems to care. Is it because it's not Trump or they believe that it's ok because it's boys, therefore "feminism."

Wow, you're making excuses for a groomer. Trump's behavior is groomer behavior.

Where's the other nutball with his groomer memes, or does he only post those against gay men out of his self-loathing?

They're at it again.

Some woman lied, made up stuff, recanted it years ago - so, Fake News - but we just had another little cycle of Uniparty pushes it.

https://thepostmillennial.com/ny-post-daily-mail-run-clickbait-headlines-about-trump-epstein-tapes-accuser-recanted-years-ago

A new set of documents from the case between Virginia Giuffre and Ghislaine Maxwell concerning Jeffrey Epstein were released on Monday. The New York Post, The Daily Mail, and other outlets took those documents and ran false headlines that claimed there was footage of Donald Trump having sex with Epstein's victims. The accuser quoted in that Exhibit recanted her comments years later in a New Yorker interview.

@hubrys congrats that you didn't run with it.

Was sure you would; remember how much you love Fake News? like this thread: https://community.gaytor.rent/topic/63327/trump-said-to-have-revealed-nuclear-submarine-secrets

That still does not say that he did it with the Miss Teen.

According to Pageant Planet, Miss Teen is 13 to 17.

While 18 and 19 are technically "teenagers" they are legally adults.

As I have pointed out in previous posts, both gay men and hetero women have been shown in photos of young male models in various states of undress backstage at fashion shows. No one seems to care. Is it because it's not Trump or they believe that it's ok because it's boys, therefore "feminism."

The 4 anonymous sources can't be verified. They could be lying to make Trump look bad. We can't verify if they were even in a pageant.

Don't like anonymous sources? Okay, how about the source being Trump himself. To quote Trump from a 2005 Howard Stern interview:

“I’ll go backstage before a show, and everyone’s getting dressed and ready and everything else... You know, no men are anywhere. And I’m allowed to go in because I’m the owner of the pageant. And therefore I’m inspecting it… Is everyone OK? You know, they’re standing there with no clothes. And you see these incredible-looking women. And so I sort of get away with things like that..."

Remember, the contestants at the Miss Teen USA pageant ranged from 14 to 19.

LINK: A Timeline of Donald Trump’s Creepiness While He Owned Miss Universe

Lib pretends that somehow, descriptive hypothetical words can be like rape.

No.

So what if Trump got to see half-dressed 18-year hotties - then said he liked it? Go to any beach.

This is a gay porn site, not a 1730s church revival.

I'll say it again:

I am SO much more comfortable with a grownup man who "reads" grownup woman & MAY, or more likely does NOT, make a foreplay move by her signals to him.....

....than I am with Bill Clinton Pedo-Rapist, who either forces his erect penis into grownup women as they scream No (by several accounts), or fucks under-18 girls enslaved on Epstein Island for Bill's enjoyment.

Vast difference.

But to admit difference, is inconvenient to demented libs - so they don't.

Ok, it was further down the quote.

Rich and/or good looking guys have a lot of privileges with women that average guys don't have. That is exactly what Trump was talking about. There are plenty of channels on YouTube where we hear that straight from the whore's mouth.

18 is an adult. We have 2 adults (at the time of the pageant) who have conflicting accounts.

The 4 anonymous sources can't be verified. They could be lying to make Trump look bad. We can't verify if they were even in a pageant.

Also, your quote doesn't include the infamous "grab them by the pussy."

Scroll back up and read the post again. It clearly includes the quote.

@raphjd said in Epstein document dump - bad for Clinton, Prince Andrew; sorry libs it's ok for Trump:

I haven't heard of him concerning anything "teen" but I have heard of him with the adult version.

LINK: Donald Trump boasted about meeting semi-naked teenagers in beauty pageants

Comes from his statements on the Howard Stern show back in 2005 before he'd even thought about running for president. He was a lot more honest about his sleaze before he had presidential aspirations.

@hubrys you sound like someone who's never had sex before.

"pre-confirmed consensual post-act retro-consent" - said no sexy person, ever.

To be clear.

I am SO much more comfortable with a grownup man who "reads" grownup women & MAY, or more likely does NOT, make a foreplay move by her signals to him.....

....than I am with Bill Clinton Pedo-Rapist, who either forces his erect penis into grownup women as they scream No (by several accounts), or fucks underaged girls enslaved on Epstein Island for Bill's enjoyment.

And most people would be. Because they're not demented by lib ideology.

"And when you’re a star, they let you do it."

Plenty of women are exactly as he described.

Also, your quote doesn't include the infamous "grab them by the pussy."

I haven't heard of him concerning anything "teen" but I have heard of him with the adult version.

Are you equally butt-hurt about women who go into the dressing rooms of teen males?

"Grab them by the pussy" is missing the 2nd part, as always. The full quote is "You can grab them by the pussy because they let you."

I think you need to read the transcript again, because that's not what he said.

Trump: Yeah, that’s her. With the gold. I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know, I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything.

Bush: Whatever you want.

Trump: Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.

He's describing sexual assault; not pre-confirmed consensual activity. He's relying on post-act retro-consent because he's a celebrity. And judging from the number of Confidentiality Agreements he's paid women to sign, I don't think he always got the post-act retro-consent.

And I notice you ignored him looking at naked little girls at his beauty pageants.

"Grab them by the pussy" is missing the 2nd part, as always. The full quote is "You can grab them by the pussy because they let you."

I'm not sure why you are so butt hurt about Trump paying a hooker, er um "porn star" for sex when you are on a site that has porn stars and I'm sure we have people that pay for sex here are sell.

As a liberal, you should support sex work because that's WOKE. If you support sex work, then you have to support their customers too.

Are you equating fucking trafficked minors with fucking a 2-bit porn star?

Actually, I was insinuating that he likely partook in the fucking of trafficked minors while flying on Epstein's Lolita Express the seven confirmed times we know he used it or during the time period he admits he was friends with Epstein; while also pointing out that he's also a sleazeball who pays for sex with porn stars.

But there's also his court-affirmed sexual abuse. His recorded admittance that he likes to grab women by their pussies.

Or the fact that he apparently had a habit of walking into the changing rooms backstage at the Miss Teen USA pageants he owned, involving rooms with girls aged 15-19 years old naked and changing clothes.

And as to Clinton...fuck Bill Clinton. I don't know why you assholes on here think I'm some fanboy for Bill Clinton. He's a molester, abuser, and manipulator....just like your buddy-boy Trump. I don't carry water for Bill Clinton.

I do find it funny the lengths that you hacks will go to to maintain your voluntary ignorance of the immoral behavior of your Savior, Donald Trump.

I mean, I think the elite conspiracy stuff can be overblown, but COME ON."

https://twitter.com/Heminator/status/1742948051616997497

But yeah child trafficking is what's bad here, and Clinton is the pres involved.

Always count on libs to obscure & distract, so that child trafficking & rape will be overlooked. Hillary pioneered it.

@hubrys Cry more, Clinton apologist.

(I thought to add a note, that Clinton apologist means pedo-rape apologist..... but you know what? Clinton "brand" IS pedo & rape. "Clinton apologist" is indictment in itself.)

Are you equating fucking trafficked minors with fucking a 2-bit porn star?

Stormy signed an NDA and got paid. Her dirty lawyer convinced her she could get a lot more, so she violated her NDA. She lost in court. She now owes Trump nearly $1 Million in legal fees.

But besides all that, good job, buddy! Way to prove something no one cared about to begin with. We don't need Epstein dirt to know Trump's a sleezeball. We have the receipts for him paying a porn star to fuck him for that.

But again, way to go champ!

https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/1742768924213854519

There’s no revelations. Jeffrey Epstein’s case was covered up. I can explain why.

In 2017, my lawyer Marc Randazza found a wonky freedom of the press case. There was a defamation case, and although Jeffrey Epstein wasn’t named as a defendant, the case was central to some “conspiracy theories.” Marc asked me if I wanted to file a motion to intervene. We expected it to be a simple matter.

Media interest was almost zero. No one in the “free press” cared. Then Trump nominated Alexander Acosta to the Secretary of Labor. Acosta had handled the original Epstein criminal case, and said Epstein was given kid gloves treatments due to protection from the intelligence community.

Epstein was an asset of the FBI. What his exact relation was remains sealed.

By 2019 the case I sought to intervene in had an ORANGE MAN BAD angle because Acota was Trump’s Labor Secretary. Even if the motives were impure, at least we were on to the races.

Hundreds-of-thousands of dollars later, a trip to the Second Circuit Court of Appeals, and a lot of fighting, we had a batch of documents ready to be unsealed.

The weekend before the documents were made public, SDNY arrested Epstein quietly when he landed his private jet on an airport from a trip he took in France. No perp walk for Epstein.

In 2019 I wrote the following after a press conference was held re: Epstein’s arrest:

" Why didn’t the SNDY charge Jeffrey Epstein under the Mann Act? Under the Mann Act, it’s unlawful to transport an underage girl through interstate travel, including on an airplane."

"In a widely-publicized press conference the United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York announced sex trafficking charges against Jeff Epstein."

"Epstein was charged for paying minors for massages from 2002 to 2005. Yet what was more newsworthy was the what the indictment left out."

"The indictment against Epstein does not charge anyone except Epstein, and there’s nothing to indicate that anyone who flew to Epstein’s private island has faced scrutiny."

"The SDNY’s actions have all of the telltale signs of containment. Because the Miami Herald and Cernovich won a civil lawsuit, leading to over 2,000 records being unsealed, it’s simply impossible for the same Feds who gave Epstein a pass years ago to continue to cover up."

"The SDNY could have charged Epstein in 2002, 2003, 2004, or at anytime until today. Yet they did not file charges until the Second Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that previously sealed records involving Jeff Epstein would become public record.Thus they are charging him without implicating anyone else who assisted with his operation."

You know what happened next. Epstein committed suicide.

Because SDNY charged the lowest level offenses possible, they “lacked jurisdiction” to raid Epstein’s island in Little St James, as well as his New Mexico and Paris properties. Those houses were left unattended for a couple of weeks.

During that time, a safe went missing. During the Ghislaine Maxwell trial, it was reported:

Evidence from Jeffrey Epstein's safe 'went missing' after FBI raid.

What was in the safe? We’ll never know for certain. We do know that the FBI has Jeffrey Epstein’s blackmail files.

The real Jeffrey Epstein files are the blackmail material.

Very powerful forces have made sure we will never see it.

https://twitter.com/WojPawelczyk/status/1148246476881104896

To set stage: Epstein was South Florida resident & Mar-a-Lago was/is high-end business.

James Patterson, Filthy Rich, ch 33:

Member's young daughter complained to her wealthy father; while relaxing at Mar-a-Lago, she'd been approached and invited out to Epstein's house. The girl said that she had gone and Epstein tried to get her to undress. The girl's father had gone directly to Trump, who in no uncertain terms told Epstein that he was barred

Now let's debate

• how much Bill hung with Epstein
• why Bill hung with Epstein
• whether pedophile rapist as First Husband of White House is great idea