And it's happening all over America - many other instances.

In the name of 2020s woke-Trans. (But not that all T support it! Many don't.)

I think queer and trans are separate things, but it depends on how "queer" is defined. If we go with the traditional definition, then all LGBT++++++++ is queer. However, this isn't the way the queer community define it.

It seems that a lot of queer people realize that their actions are not well received by the majority, so they declare themselves as trans because trans is a lot more acceptable.

I don't personally know anyone who is against real trans people because they just want to get on with their life.

Queers are the ones that are combative and attention-seeking.

1990s Trans movement: Let us be free to live as individuals. No street bashing, no job or housing discrimination. Give us self-defense (eg. gun ownership) and other reasonable self-determination.

2020s Woke-MAP-Queer-Trans movement: Let unstable males into any & all female safe spaces, wrecking them. Let unstable males wreck female sports, steal Women's awards, compel/dictate other people's speech, and groom kids for sexual abuse, mutilating surgeries (perhaps), future prostitution & sex addiction, etc.

Supporting the one is a no-brainer.

Opposing the other, also a no-brainer.

What's bad about Caitlyn Jenner is that she works both.

I'd say you are right.

The thing is, some people call themselves "trans" but then go on to describe themselves as queer.

I have no issues with normal trans people, but I find the queers extremely tiresome.

@hubrys should have been banned on our first encounter for breaking the site rules outside of the Politics section.

Not surprisingly, the people that complain about me handing out (perma or temp) bans are the same people that defend it when social media sites do it. Nor do they complain when other gay sites ban people for having discussed their conservative views.

@soraspeir81's whole argument in this thread was based strictly (and dishonestly) on Spore/Spores as pronouns. This was intentional because if his argument was based on all the idiotic made-up pronouns (and genders), then he has absolutely no argument.

Even on the bogus premise, he tried to argue, people are demanding that I, me specifically, use their preferred pronouns by getting laws passed that require me to use whatever stupidity they come up with.

Canada, Scotland, California, and many others have passed laws that require people to use these words or be guilty of hate crimes. England does not have such a law, so the police invented "non-crime hate incidents". While it has no bearing in law, they put it on your criminal record as if you were convicted of it. This can prevent you from getting a job, credit, rental agreements, etc, etc, etc. Despite the UK Supreme Court telling them to stop it, it still happens.

Jordan Peterson got famous directly because of Canada's law, which he objected to.

Many universities also require the use of preferred pronouns or you canbe expelled.

Social media does as well.

Liberals need to be blatantly dishonest in these discussions, in order to "win" and at the same time pretend things are not as bad as they really are.

@raphjd You are so easily triggered that it's funny. You are so easily triggered you even follow twitter accounts so that you can go and be performatively triggered here.

Stop being such a snowflake. Nobody is telling you to use "spore" as your pronouns, and nobody in your life is asking you to use "spore" as their pronouns. You are literally being afraid of someone's tiktok. The definition of triggered. Loser.

but we are being told to use the pronouns or be called a bigot, trasphobe and whatever they can use.
we're gays here, but you gotta admit, the T in LGBT is bringing us down with their radical idiotic preferred pronouns and thousand genders

@hubrys is the guy that called me an asshole and a liar over a graphic pornographic book in at least 2 elementary school libraries, available to 6yos.

His counter-argument was that since no 6yo actually checked out the book, it was fine.

He supports grooming and sexualizing kids.

That was our first encounter on the site.

I find political talk toxic. I try to avoid such topics with my partner to keep the peace between us but I just find two people arguing about political stuff too funny especially in person or the politicians themselves. I don't know. It's just my normal reaction to such a thing and I get the laughs out of it.

I find Elon Musk amusing also. I try to read news about him before going to sleep. His mouth cost him $44B.

If you can have an honest discussion, even if we don't agree, then you have nothing to worry about.

People like you think you have the right to be a total asshole to anyone you disagree with, with no comeback while supporting cancel culture.

What photo?

Well he got banned fast at 39 posts!

Yeah, @raphjd tends to ban people when he can't defend himself against them in arguments. But such is the world when you give the wrong sorts even the littlest bit of power.

raphjd, why don't you go back to posting photoshopped pictures and then refusing to admit they're fake even when presented with the original, unedited photo.

The discussion is over because he can't have an honest discussion.

Sadly, this is the way with most liberals.

Sorry I don't mean to offend anyone here but I'm loving the discussion.

You have a pathological need to be a troll.

Blah, blah, blah said the troll

I am hereby asking that you call me by my formal name, His Royal Highness, Protector of the Realm, King of the Trolls.

Now, you can't say "everyone" isn't demanding this, can you?

Do you shake in terror every time some asks you to do something you don't want to do? No, you just don't do it and move the fuck on. Do the same here.

If someone says "Hey man, I am more comfortable with if you call me with this other pronoun" you can simply respond "OMG NO! I CAN'T! PRONOUNS TRIGGER ME SO FUCK YOU, I WANT TO BE MEAN TO YOU!' Or you could just say "Hey, sorry, I don't like to treat people with basic respect by using their pronouns" and walk away, or just walk away. Just don't be triggered by a part of speech, grow up, pull up your diaper, and be a big boy like the rest of us.

Ah, so no one is demanding that everyone use their pronouns.

Again, you are a liar, troll or most likely BOTH.

Keep reading what I said.
"and nobody in your life is asking you to use "spore" as their pronouns."

Now again, nobody is telling you to use any pronouns. You are imagining this. You have a persecution fetish, that's all.

And again, easily triggered by a tiktok. Maybe you need a safe space so you don't have to see pronouns being used ever would that help? Does baby need a safe space?

You are such an idiot.

I never said that people are demanding that I use "spore" as my pronoun. I said that you losers are demanding that everyone use their made-up bullshit pronouns. No one is shocked at how utterly dishonest you are.