Bipartisan Committee Votes Unanimously to Investigate DFL Senator’s Role in Voter Fraud
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@raphjd said in Bipartisan Committee Votes Unanimously to Investigate DFL Senator’s Role in Voter Fraud:
You are forgetting that countless people committed the same sort of crimes, to help Democrat politicians and other liberal causes.
This is significant. "the same sort of crimes".
Which democratic president cast doubt on the election after it was over, tried pressuring state legislatures to appoint electors faithful to him, brought out fake electors and had them fill out fake documents, try to submit those fake documents to the VP on Jan 6th, tried to force the VP to throw out the election, and sent a mob to the Capitol to threaten lawmakers. Which one did that? If you cant name one, then it's not the same sort or crimes.
You'll mention the "fraud" that took place during the election. But you wont mention any deposed witnesses who testified to witnessing any of those acts, whereas the committee has hours and hours of testimony from hundreds of people who worked with Trump and his lackeys. Lots and lots of them.
Democratic fraud? I hear only crickets. The GOP had the perfect opportunity to present all of their election fraud evidence -- THEY HAD THIS COMMITTEE that would have heard their witnesses. But McCarthy said "nope" we're not participating. Why would he pass up a golden opportunity?
Lets hear your excuses, the ones that you pull out of your hat that I know you despise having to keep in that hat, the ones that blame MSM, big tech, "why havent we heard about the russian collusion" (oh and by the way does collusion need to be out and loud in the spotlight to have happneed? You're tacit acknowledgement of Macedonian content farms that "deserve your clicks cause of MSM avoiding things", well is that collusion? Its you helping them without you coming out and saying "here I am I'm helping them") Its you giving them the "wink & a nod". But you'll still say "wheres your evidence of the wink and the nod? where is it?
Ask me where the Trump crime evidence is. I wont respond with "whataboutisms" Ill give you the Jan 6 committee and the hundreds of testifying witnesses. And all you got is that hat.
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You are going way off track.
You are screeching about the so-called crimes this woman supposedly committed.
Nothing she did was any different from what MSM and bid tech did.
Just because the DOJ and FBI are dirty as fuck, doesn't change that fact.
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@raphjd
I found the evidence of collusion youve been asking for all this time. Schiff had said that the meeting with the Russians about getting dirt on Clinton was the proof he was talking about. And there it is, on page 110 of Mueller's report.On June 9, 2016, senior representatives of the Trump Campaign met in Trump Tower with a Russian attorney expecting to receive derogatory information about Hillary Clinton from the Russian government. The meeting was proposed to Donald Trump Jr. in an email from Robert Goldstone, at the request of his then-client Emin Agalarov, the son of Russian real-estate developer Aras Agalarov.
Goldstone relayed to Trump Jr. that the “Crown prosecutor of Russia . . . offered to provide the Trump Campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia” as “part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump.”
Trump Jr. immediately responded that “if it’s what you say I love it,” and arranged the meeting through a series of emails and telephone calls.
Trump Jr. invited campaign chairman Paul Manafort and senior advisor Jared Kushner to attend the meeting, and both attended. Members of the Campaign discussed the meeting before it occurred, and Michael Cohen recalled that Trump Jr. may have told candidate Trump about an upcoming meeting to receive adverse information about Clinton, without linking the meeting to Russia. According to written answers submitted by President Trump, he has no recollection of learning of the meeting at the time, and the Office found no documentary evidence showing that he was made aware of the meeting—or its Russian connection—before it occurred.
The Russian attorney who spoke at the meeting, Natalia Veselnitskaya, had previously worked for the Russian government and maintained a relationship with that government throughout this period of time. She claimed that funds derived from illegal activities in Russia were provided to Hillary Clinton and other Democrats.
Trump Jr. requested evidence to support those claims, but Veselnitskaya did not provide such information. She and her associates then turned to a critique of the origins of the Magnitsky Act, a 2012 statute that imposed financial and travel sanctions on Russian officials and that resulted in a retaliatory ban on adoptions of Russian children.
Trump Jr. suggested that the issue could be revisited when and if candidate Trump was elected.
Rick Gates, who was the deputy campaign chairman, stated during interviews with the Office that in the days before June 9, 2016 Trump Jr. announced at a regular morning meeting of senior campaign staff and Trump family members that he had a lead on negative information about the Clinton Foundation. Gates believed that Trump Jr. said the information was coming from a group in Kyrgyzstan and that he was introduced to the group by a friend. Gates recalled that the meeting was attended by Trump Jr., Eric Trump, Paul Manafort, Hope Hicks, and, joining late, Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner. According to Gates, Manafort warned the group that the meeting likely would not yield vital information and they should be careful. Hicks denied any knowledge of the June 9 meeting before 2017, and Kushner did not recall if the planned June 9 meeting came up at all earlier that week.
Michael Cohen recalled being in Donald J. Trump’s office on June 6 or 7 when Trump Jr. told his father that a meeting to obtain adverse information about Clinton was going forward. Cohen did not recall Trump Jr. stating that the meeting was connected to Russia. From the tenor of the conversation, Cohen believed that Trump Jr. had previously discussed the meeting with his father, although Cohen was not involved in any such conversation.
In an interview with the Senate Judiciary Committee, however, Trump Jr. stated that he did not inform his father about the emails or upcoming meeting.
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There, now we can check that off your list as DONE. That argument can be removed from your hat. It doesn't work anymore because the proof Schiff was talking about was the meeting.
Doesn't that feel great?
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And yet, when he's asked about it, he doesn't mention it.
Mueller's report and Schift don't seem to say the samething
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So taking a look inside your old "excuses/arguments" hat, there appears to be only two left.
@raphjd said:
Nothing she did was any different from what MSM and bid tech did.
Just because the DOJ and FBI are dirty as fuck, doesn't change that fact.
Ok, so what we've got here:
(1) The crimes that person A commits are similar enough to crimes that person B commits, which then legitimizes person A's crimes as not really a problem for anyone.
(2) The criminal justice system is corrupt, which then legitimizes crimes commited by person's A and B because no one can be held accountable.
Have I accurately distilled your arguments? Please advise.
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Looking at these, I love it! you've built yourself an ironclad argument.
In step one, you grant certain people immunity, because "others do it too"
Then, in step 2, after you've let everyone off with no consequences, you then have the audacity to sit back and say "well hey, none of these people are being punished.... so whats the point of the FBI to do anything, its all corrupt."
LoL
Its strikingly banal in its simplicity. An unmovable bowl of crap. How do you do it? Its fascinating
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Ah, so you support a one-sided legal system.
Justice is supposed to be blind, not politically motivated.
The justice system you want is the same as we see under dictators.
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@raphjd
Woohoo, pay attention. I'm the one talking about your most used arguments.Justice systems, ummm you mentioned that. thats your argument. "the DOJ and FBI are dirty as fuck"
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DOJ and FBI - dirty as fuck.
Whatever Trump, Guliani, ____ (insert name here) did which might have been bad....well, but Schiff, Pelosi, Clinton _____ (insert name here) did em too!
those are your two main arguments FOR ANYTHING. Right?
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You are saying this content frm chick is a criminal based on what she has been accused of, by the DOJ/FBI.
I pointed out that MSM, big tech and the DNC have also done those things, but you don't want me talking about that.
I know you are a liberal, but I would have thought you would know that the justice system includes the DOJ and FBI.
You brought the justice system into this thread by bringing in the charges against the chick.
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No no, I mentioned her, and when I did, you immediately tried to minimize her crimes (because shes russian aka authoritarian aka someone you would easily admire, and if she stole a 0.25 cent cigarillo and was shot she would be a modern day Joan of Arc in your eyes):
Watch as you minimize :
@raphjd said in Bipartisan Committee Votes Unanimously to Investigate DFL Senator’s Role in Voter Fraud:
Just thinking about it, but do you think that she is worse than the MSM, who spent 4 years lying about Trump at every turn?
And you used one of your favorite go-to arguments to defend her (because you've only got a handful of em) "is she really as bad as _____ (fill in the blank)" aka, the "shes bad, hes bad, their all bad" argument.... "so if you pick on my Putin Princess Ima gonna throw MSM libs ____ in the frey" (insert standard raphjd-worldview villain) "and minimize cause that my (your) modus operandi"
Sensing you were going for your comfort circle of arguments, I then numbered them (like when driving out of town, and bored, some people point out and count how many out of state license plates they can spot) yada yada , and there we are.
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LOL, says the guy who blatantly ignores your beloved MSM and bid tech doing the same thing.
If she was running a liberal content farm, you'd be worshipping her.
You want me to view her as evil while demanding I ignore MSM, big tech, and the DNC. If it's evil for one to do it, then it's evil for all to do it, but since you are a liberal you can't understand that.
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@raphjd
When you say "you want me to ignore the MSM" is that your way of saying "whenever you bring up Trump, I want to also bring up my list of baddies just cause... gotta rep-rezent!?
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Light comes on over my head....
I think I get it.
People bring up Trump, and cause you know the shit he done was baad ...and ....you dont got nothin to defend him... (here comes your anxiety at not being able to defend him) and all you got left is your little "minimizer-gun" that magically swats away Trump arguments. Poof! anxiety is lessened and raphjd feels better and more secure.
By god I think Ive got it!!!
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You clowns love to bring up Trump in conversations that have nothing to do with him.
Until you can admit that your beloved MSM, big tech, and the DNC also committed the same crimes as this chick, then you are just a partisan hack who supports a corrupt legal system.
I know you won't admit it, because you are pathologically unable to.
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@raphjd Well I said trump but really for you, its a mutable thing... its a standard conservatism vs liberal. Defending conservatives in todays climate is hard, and your not left with much to use. So you compare and minimize others, in order to feel better
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You know raphjd, a lot of the arguments you make against MSM, if they were more sophisticated, you would see how often what you say, its true! MSM DOES deserve scrutiny and scorn.
Your saying "the MSM covers up shit" which, in more educated hands, would sound like "Mainstream Media Recirculation of Trust-Reducing Social Media Messages, and the Cultivation of Non-Redemptive Self-Schemata in Disadvantaged Minorities". There are real, substantial problems affecting MSM and its inescapable and often destructive influence over society
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Ah, I have to use "big words" to please you. Clearly, you know my argument, but because I don't use big words, you ignore my argument.
That says a lot about you.
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@Spintendo Unfortunately, with your bias against certain members of society, a lot of these arguments that are happening now in society about MSM, the change that you and others see is needed would have diametrically different solutions.
For example, your concern that the black mass shooter was getting less coverage in media, which is a VALID POINT, does not originate from some understanding of the plight of Blacks in America and how they are marginalized....... rather, I think you want more people to know cause perhaps you like the idea of people seeing more of their criminality. which if I'm right, is really kind of a sad sick thing to want. I'm almost certain, that is the part you would like best about raising "awareness". Its not concern FOR them, its the opposite.
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