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<p dir="auto">So, I thought I'd re-start this discussion, though not so much as in how it fits into Star Trek as a whole, but instead on the LGBTQ+ themes throughout.</p>
<p dir="auto">DO NOT READ if you haven't watched through Season 4, as I make no qualms about revealing plot lines here! <strong>SPOILER ALERT!</strong></p>
<p dir="auto">To start, I am a huge Star Trek fan, I have been (when much younger) to more than a few conventions (tho not in DECADES now), and find something to enjoy in all of the spin-offs. I'm REALLY enjoying the "Strange New Worlds" that has newly arrived - especially with the return of episodic television! But this is about Discovery...</p>
<p dir="auto">That said, here are some things I hated about the first 4 seasons of Discovery:</p>
<ul>
<li>The first few episodes make it clear we'll be focusing on Michael Burnham - a black, female Star Fleet Officer who right at the get-go ("The Vulcan Hello") decides that she's smarter than the rest of Star Fleet and disobeys direct orders from her captain - even to the point of mutiny! Like such a personality disorder wouldn't have shown up BEFORE she'd advanced to her rank of Commander! They should have made it less a choice of hers, and more a requirement of some kind - of a choice of bad options and worse ones... not just that she knows better!</li>
<li>The first season circles around the whole "infinite alternate universes" plot line that is de-rigueur in current Sci-Fi (from Star Trek to Spiderman!) - while, of course, ignoring the obvious: how could you possibly "jump" into such an alternate universe and see the same people!?!?!? (I hate "multiverses" in SciFi, even in 1967's "Mirror Mirror" episode of TOS!) I was happy to see the end of Season 1, though less so with the carryover of the  Philippa Georgiou character into later seasons.</li>
<li>The Discovery writers weren't loath to copy another "cheap crutch" from TOS - specifically in "Operation -- Annihilate!" when Spock is blinded - <em><strong>except</strong></em> that he has an "inner eye lid" that magically protected him (and hid itself from all of the Dr.s scans until the final scene). Puke! There are several (OK, a few) occasions in Discovery where everything seems lost, save for some miraculous last-second capability or technology "discovered" that saves the day in the last 30-seconds of the episode. Puhleeeese!</li>
<li>I did like the plot-line about Control - the self-aware AI that, like all good SciFi, decides to "protect us from ourselves" and eventually decides we should just be annihilated. (Sound a bit like "I, Mudd" from TOS? Yeah, I thought so too... but on a wider scale... I didn't mind the borrow here, as they took it in a whole new direction!)</li>
</ul>
<p dir="auto">But what I really wanted to talk about here were the efforts this version of Star Trek has taken to be "inclusive" in casting.</p>
<ul>
<li>The primary character is a black female</li>
<li>Her captain (Philippa Georgiou) is an an Asian female</li>
<li>The Dr and chief engineer are a gay-male couple - 1 white, 1 black</li>
<li>During the course of the series, "partners" are mostly described with that word, though occasionally a "wife" or "husband" will slip through. I liked that - it seems "futuristic" to me</li>
<li>The President of the Federation is a white woman (albeit a Cardassian/Human mix)</li>
<li>The President of Vulcan (now named Ni'Var) is a white woman</li>
<li>The head of the military on Earth (United Earth) is a black woman</li>
<li>The President of United Earth is a black woman - laughably, Stacey Abrams, she of failed GA candidate for Governor, but successful GA Democratic activist, fame.</li>
<li>There is also a young Trans couple: Adira (human) &amp; Gray (trill) - for whom the other crew members dutifully use the pronouns "they" (for Adira) and "it" for Gray... but I did kind-of objected to the idea that the only "foster parents" these two would have are the gay couple. I also didn't like the idea that in the Star Trek future, LGBTQ+ people would still be considered "different"... I have higher hopes for our distant future, our current present course notwithstanding.</li>
<li>I really REALLY enjoyed the casting of Tig Notaro, a lesbian comedian, as a bluntly brilliant, sarcastic, lesbian engineer (I know, save for the engineering degree, not much of a stretch from her comedy character). Still, I loved the dry wit of her character and felt she was a great asset to the cast! IMHO.</li>
</ul>
<p dir="auto">Honestly, though, especially when they popped Stacey Abrams on us as the President of Earth, I originally found the casting to be laughable and obvious - an about-face to standard casting! All the best, smartest (non-crazy, anyway), most important <em>human</em> characters were black women or gay men! (Save for 1 Admiral in the future...)</p>
<p dir="auto">BUT - when I stepped back and considered this, I changed my opinion and NOW think "turn about is fair play" - not having white men in charge, or in any real "leadership" (or "hero") capacity is for me now (as a white male) what people of color and LGBTQ+ people (ok, like me) have been exposed to since the dawn of television!</p>
<p dir="auto">So, please comment below - assuming you've watched the show - about the LGBTQ+ characters in Discovery - what you liked and didn't like about their storylines, or the casting, or whatever... I'm curious to hear how others feel...</p>
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]]></description><link>https://community.gaytor.rent/post/328697</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://community.gaytor.rent/post/328697</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[eobox91103]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 26 Dec 2024 13:57:58 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Star Trek Discovery TV Series on Thu, 26 Dec 2024 13:05:57 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Paramount says <em>Discovery</em> is non-canon:</p>
<p dir="auto"><a href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/entertainment/news/star-trek-just-erased-an-entire-series-from-canon/ar-AA1wfcVe" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.msn.com/en-us/entertainment/news/star-trek-just-erased-an-entire-series-from-canon/ar-AA1wfcVe</a></p>
<p dir="auto"><em>Lower Decks</em> series, ended with swipe at <em>Discovery</em> series, big enough that only 1 can still be canon-ish - and Paramount has said, it's <em>Lower Decks</em>.</p>
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]]></description><link>https://community.gaytor.rent/post/328694</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://community.gaytor.rent/post/328694</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[blablarg18]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 26 Dec 2024 13:05:57 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Star Trek Discovery TV Series on Sun, 22 May 2022 17:17:23 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/kalayaan" aria-label="Profile: kalayaan">@<bdi>kalayaan</bdi></a> said in <a href="/post/294935">Star Trek Discovery TV Series</a>:</p>
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<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/bi4smooth" aria-label="Profile: bi4smooth">@<bdi>bi4smooth</bdi></a></p>
<p dir="auto">Maybe I must be one of the very very very few who likes spoiler alert and I am not even joking</p>
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<p dir="auto">Did you mean that you like spoilers? I too like spoilers... sometimes, if I'm having a hard time staying engaged in something, I'll read the imbd entries, or other reviews - specifically to see if it's worth continuing to watch! (Sometimes, it isn't!!! That's how I dropped Discovery part-way thru Season 1!!)</p>
]]></description><link>https://community.gaytor.rent/post/294942</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://community.gaytor.rent/post/294942</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[bi4smooth]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2022 17:17:23 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Star Trek Discovery TV Series on Sun, 22 May 2022 17:15:04 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/eobox91103" aria-label="Profile: eobox91103">@<bdi>eobox91103</bdi></a> said in <a href="/post/294936">Star Trek Discovery TV Series</a>:</p>
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<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/dracula975" aria-label="Profile: Dracula975">@<bdi>Dracula975</bdi></a> Thanks very much.  I did some checking and it seems that I can get this material on Discovery + with an Amazon Fire Stick, which should plug into my smart-but-dumb TV.</p>
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<p dir="auto">I will be honest - I have been a live-long Trekker (re-watching TOS episodes for YEARS before TNG finally came out!).</p>
<p dir="auto">I gave up on Discovery near the end of Season 1 (like I said, I detest these "multiverse" themes to "at a whim" just remake the environment where your story takes place). My path BACK to Discovery came through SNW (Strange New Worlds - the newest - and IMHO, best of the reboots so far, save for TNG).</p>
<p dir="auto">I also enjoy Picard - I'm just starting Season 2...</p>
<p dir="auto">Oh, and CBS All Access became Paramount+ (they wanted to be able to stream Paramount movies and other non-CBS TV network content too, so they re-named it and raised the rates! Boo!)</p>
]]></description><link>https://community.gaytor.rent/post/294941</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://community.gaytor.rent/post/294941</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[bi4smooth]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2022 17:15:04 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Star Trek Discovery TV Series on Sun, 22 May 2022 13:48:12 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/dracula975" aria-label="Profile: Dracula975">@<bdi>Dracula975</bdi></a> Thanks very much.  I did some checking and it seems that I can get this material on Discovery + with an Amazon Fire Stick, which should plug into my smart-but-dumb TV.</p>
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<p dir="auto">Maybe I must be one of the very very very few who likes spoiler alert and I am not even joking</p>
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<p dir="auto">My house in the US has cable, Netflix, and Amazon Prime; I think I need something else to get Discovery.  Next time I'm there, I'll check around.</p>
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<p dir="auto">Discovery is has moved to Paramount+. I think it was originally on CBS All Access (maybe still is?). All of the Star Trek series, including the newest one "Star Trek: Strange New Worlds" are now on Paramount+.</p>
<p dir="auto">I personally like the newest "Strange New Worlds" better than "Discovery".</p>
]]></description><link>https://community.gaytor.rent/post/294934</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://community.gaytor.rent/post/294934</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Dracula975]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2022 13:23:29 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Star Trek Discovery TV Series on Sun, 22 May 2022 12:36:24 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/bi4smooth" aria-label="Profile: bi4smooth">@<bdi>bi4smooth</bdi></a> Thank you for putting a spoiler alert at the beginning of your first posting:  I always enjoy reading your material, but I haven't seen any of this series yet, so I squinted past your comments.  At some point I will take the plunge...or at least dip my toe in the water.  I don't consider myself a Trekkie, but I have enjoyed the original series, next generation, and Voyager.  (I found DS9 and Enterprise quite uninteresting, based on a very small sample.)</p>
<p dir="auto">My house in the US has cable, Netflix, and Amazon Prime; I think I need something else to get Discovery.  Next time I'm there, I'll check around.</p>
]]></description><link>https://community.gaytor.rent/post/294931</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://community.gaytor.rent/post/294931</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[eobox91103]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2022 12:36:24 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Star Trek Discovery TV Series on Sun, 22 May 2022 02:07:10 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Another thing I REALLY liked about the writers on Discovery, was slipping in 20th Century Earth cultural references...<br />
For example, in one of the final episodes, a Star Fleet official wryly remarks "It’s nice that they’re all so eager for a three-hour tour outside the galaxy."</p>
<p dir="auto">No one there gets the reference, and he smooths it over by simply calling it a "figure of speech"... which actually confuses more of them...</p>
<p dir="auto">Being raised with Gilligan's Island re-runs on our local UHF stations as I grew up, I found this hysterically funny. My 38 y/o son also laughed out loud over it... but my 21 y/o daughter (also a trekker) didn't get it! And when I explained it, she was like "so?"</p>
<p dir="auto">There are also MULTIPLE references to Alice in Wonderland (actually, several of Lewis Carrol's works) throughout!</p>
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