Your extreme TDS is showing.

The "in Chicago" part might have been a misstatement, but Joy "I was hacked" Reid, The Root, Slate and Salon said he killed 3 black men, so we know where you got that part.

@bi4smooth

"You people" are the idiotic left.

You know, the same ones that claimed Kyle Rittenhouse killed 3 black men in Chicago, even after the trial.

As opposed to you idiot Trumpites who still think Trump won in 2020?

Hmmm... one seems to have been a misstatement, while the other appears to be a heartfelt belief... along with the belief in Leprechauns, Wizards, and Space Aliens!

"You people" are the idiotic left.

You know, the same ones that claimed Kyle Rittenhouse killed 3 black men in Chicago, even after the trial.

@bi4smooth

Um, from clowns like you.

If you can't see that with your idiotic and hypocritical stance throughout this thread and others on the topic of "trans", then I can't help you.

You said "but they aren't men, though" (paraphrased) in this very thread.

You people got extremely butt hurt when Posie Parker and others said "but they aren't women, though".

Just a month ago you people couldn't define "woman".

"you people"

straw man... by its very definition!

How long have you been losing arguments - HEATED arguments - with yourself? You may want to consider getting help... PROFESSIONAL help! There are conservative therapists too!

Um, from clowns like you.

If you can't see that with your idiotic and hypocritical stance throughout this thread and others on the topic of "trans", then I can't help you.

You said "but they aren't men, though" (paraphrased) in this very thread.

You people got extremely butt hurt when Posie Parker and others said "but they aren't women, though".

Just a month ago you people couldn't define "woman".

It's funny how liberals suddenly became the TERFs they hated prior to the SCOTUS leak.

"But, they aren't women, though" is the new liberal mantra.

Where are you hearing this? One of my more liberal news sources is NPR (and they're pretty damned liberal!), and I haven't heard this crap from THEM!

My dear, are you arguing with your own straw man again?

"But, they aren't women, though" is the new liberal mantra.

This is why I can't take you, idiots, seriously.

@bi4smooth

As a Pelosi Repub, you will use any excuse to justify your trans-phobia.

You are denying Thomas Beatie's maleness by your statements.

Let's not forget, I learned my stance from your side.

It was your side that said "my penis is biologically female" so the opposite is also true. Thomas Beatie's vagina is biologically male. You people made up the rules and are now getting butt hurt that the other side is obeying your rules.

No one (save you) is confusing Male with Trans-Male... the rest of this is you trying to hide your fear of being replaced by non-White Trans-Men - who are superior to you! They're coming for your house, your job, and eventually your spouse!

You clowns created this mess, with your crackhead mental gymnastics and now it's come to bite you in the ass.

The only one denying anything is the guy in YOUR mirror... There is no mess... you're looking at a lawn of green grass and fretting that each blade isn't exactly as you would like it! It's a perfectly beautiful lawn - even with the occasional weed, and even a few bare patches!

As a Pelosi Repub, you will use any excuse to justify your trans-phobia.

You are denying Thomas Beatie's maleness by your statements.

Let's not forget, I learned my stance from your side.

It was your side that said "my penis is biologically female" so the opposite is also true. Thomas Beatie's vagina is biologically male. You people made up the rules and are now getting butt hurt that the other side is obeying your rules.

You clowns created this mess, with your crackhead mental gymnastics and now it's come to bite you in the ass.

@bi4smooth

Thomas Beatie was legally a man when HE gave birth to all 4 of HIS kids.

Being "legally a man" doesn't stop Mr. Beatie from being a TRANS-man... and Coconut "milk" being "legally milk" doesn't mean "milk" isn't dairy.

AND YET AGAIN, if I dared say that men can not get pregnant or have periods, you would call me a transphobe.

If you had a dick (somewhere other than in your head), we'd call you a man...

I'm sorry, Martha, but not mentioning Trans people in every breath or sentence that references male or female doesn't make you a trans-phobe! Indeed, insisting that every reference to gender include trans is a form of trans-phobia, because you use them as ways to marginalize and "cheapen" the unique existence of Trans people. Indeed, YOU use it as an opportunity to denigrate and even degrade them!

Thomas Beatie was legally a man when HE gave birth to all 4 of HIS kids.

AND YET AGAIN, if I dared say that men can not get pregnant or have periods, you would call me a transphobe.

@bi4smooth said in Democrats throw "birthing people" under the bus:

@raphjd said in Democrats throw "birthing people" under the bus:

@bi4smooth

Ah, so there aren't any gay trans-men.

The rest of your post is just typical liberal bullshit.

I know you are too fucking stupid to get it, but I have not argued on either side of the abortion issue. I have just pointed out that you idiotic liberals are all over the map on every topic to suit your current agendas.

What about bald trans man? When they get pregnant, are they denied abortion rights because they're bald? because they're trans? or because they're pregnant?

What about rich, White trans men? When they get pregnant, are they denied abortion rights because they're White? because they're trans? or because they're pregnant? Oh, wait! They're White - they're not denied anything... White people don't want abortion rights, they're too perfect to need them!

So, riddle-me-this, bat-shit-crazy-man? When a Trans person is given a speeding ticket, is it trans-phobia?

More proof that you are nothing but an idiot.

You said men can't get pregnant.

Men cannot get pregnant... Some pre-op Trans-men can, but that's like saying "Milk is dairy" and then being corrected that "Coconut Milk isn't dairy"...

That you cannot accept that simply shows the juvenile nature of your "logic"...

Some little white boys who get bullied on the playground just NEVER grow up, do they?

@raphjd said in Democrats throw "birthing people" under the bus:

@bi4smooth

Ah, so there aren't any gay trans-men.

The rest of your post is just typical liberal bullshit.

I know you are too fucking stupid to get it, but I have not argued on either side of the abortion issue. I have just pointed out that you idiotic liberals are all over the map on every topic to suit your current agendas.

What about bald trans man? When they get pregnant, are they denied abortion rights because they're bald? because they're trans? or because they're pregnant?

What about rich, White trans men? When they get pregnant, are they denied abortion rights because they're White? because they're trans? or because they're pregnant? Oh, wait! They're White - they're not denied anything... White people don't want abortion rights, they're too perfect to need them!

So, riddle-me-this, bat-shit-crazy-man? When a Trans person is given a speeding ticket, is it trans-phobia?

More proof that you are nothing but an idiot.

You said men can't get pregnant.

Ok, dearie.

The only person you are fooling is yourself.

You bitches claim that men get periods and get pregnant, then SCOTUS seems ready to overturn RvW and you ass clowns start screaming "woman haters" and "men can't get pregnant".

Typical liberal bullshit, as always.

@bi4smooth

I know you are too fucking stupid to get it, but I have not argued on either side of the abortion issue. I have just pointed out that you idiotic liberals are all over the map on every topic to suit your current agendas.

You DO know that FREEDOM is about each person having their own thoughts and ideas, right?

Or are you still in Middle school, exerting your independence by being just like everyone else!

The Republican Party has plenty of differing views - only the Trumpite wing seems to relish in the old Patty Duke Show song: ... "They laugh alike, they walk alike,
At times they even talk alike - You can lose your mind"

BTW, Comrade - where's your "love of all things Putin" been hiding lately? He's still feeding your narrative! You just don't acknowledge it so much anymore...

I wonder why?

@bi4smooth

Ah, so there aren't any gay trans-men.

The rest of your post is just typical liberal bullshit.

I know you are too fucking stupid to get it, but I have not argued on either side of the abortion issue. I have just pointed out that you idiotic liberals are all over the map on every topic to suit your current agendas.

What about bald trans man? When they get pregnant, are they denied abortion rights because they're bald? because they're trans? or because they're pregnant?

What about rich, White trans men? When they get pregnant, are they denied abortion rights because they're White? because they're trans? or because they're pregnant? Oh, wait! They're White - they're not denied anything... White people don't want abortion rights, they're too perfect to need them!

So, riddle-me-this, bat-shit-crazy-man? When a Trans person is given a speeding ticket, is it trans-phobia?

Ah, so there aren't any gay trans-men.

The rest of your post is just typical liberal bullshit.

I know you are too fucking stupid to get it, but I have not argued on either side of the abortion issue. I have just pointed out that you idiotic liberals are all over the map on every topic to suit your current agendas.

@bi4smooth

Your extreme TDS is showing.

You can't see the extreme bullshit in the liberal argument.

You clowns tell us that men have periods and get pregnant, then you tell us that men can't have abortions because they don't have vaginas.

If men can have periods and get pregnant, then they can have abortions.

Clearly, you are claiming that trans-men are not men because you said;

Exactly how can a man have an abortion?

You haved denied the existence of every trans-man out there.

You denied Thomas Beatie and every man that gave birth after him.

You are a typical liberal POS.

You're a deluded freak - abortion is not a trans issue! If a trans-man gets pregnant, it's pretty damned likely that it was planned... and if not, well the fact that they're pregnant and may want the freedom to choose to abort that pregnancy IS NOT A TRANS ISSUE!

Your White Power -- oops, White Privilege -- is really what's at stake here!

Your extreme TDS is showing.

You can't see the extreme bullshit in the liberal argument.

You clowns tell us that men have periods and get pregnant, then you tell us that men can't have abortions because they don't have vaginas.

If men can have periods and get pregnant, then they can have abortions.

Clearly, you are claiming that trans-men are not men because you said;

Exactly how can a man have an abortion?

You haved denied the existence of every trans-man out there.

You denied Thomas Beatie and every man that gave birth after him.

You are a typical liberal POS.

@bi4smooth

It says everything about you liberals.

You idiots flip flop all over the map, to suit your agenda.

As I said, if I dared claim, as you did, that man can't get pregnant, you would have called me a transphobe. But since I sided with the trans community, you idiots claim I'm a transphobe. That is the kind of garbage people you liberals are.

You liberals are nothing more than bad faith actors.

You can't see the idiocy of your own argument.
You hear from 2 different people that you're "inserting" the trans issue into a subject that is patently NOT ABOUT trans people, and largely does not affect any of them (at least not as a result of their being trans).

This is the equivalent of claiming that white privilege is a trans issue... or that social security running out of money is a trans issue...

Just when are you going to make Trump's loss in 2020 a trans issue? I can't wait to hear your twisted mind make a "logical" attempt to make THAT jump!

It says everything about you liberals.

You idiots flip flop all over the map, to suit your agenda.

As I said, if I dared claim, as you did, that man can't get pregnant, you would have called me a transphobe. But since I sided with the trans community, you idiots claim I'm a transphobe. That is the kind of garbage people you liberals are.

You liberals are nothing more than bad faith actors.

It's funny, if I said that men can't give birth, the liberals here (including our resident Pelosi Repub) would have lost their shit at me and called me a transphobe, but when I call them out for denying that men can give birth, I get called a transphobe.

It says EVERYTHING about liberals.

Actually, it says a lot more about your sad mental state that you want to cloud the abortion-rights / right-to-life issues with trans issues...

Just how many accidental pregnancies do you think trans men have?

Yeah - this is the core issue... because, in your mind (what's left of it), everything having to do with differences in gender / sex / sexual orientation is a trans issue...

Pathetic... sad & pathetic...

It says EVERYTHING about liberals.