AH, we excuse Fauci's antics over the last few decades. You are still ignoring and/or excusing what, as a scientist, Fauci has done.

I bet you wish Fauci would plop out a turd or 2 while you are sucking his ass.

@bi4smooth

Fauci said that GOF research was worth a global pandemic or 2 and here we are after he funded Bill Gate's Eco-Health doing GOFR in Wuhan, since it was banned in the US.

You love to ignore this.

I give up... you win!

Let's hunt down all the Scientists and behead them! Guillotines should server the purpose well!

Off with their heads!

Or not... or, we can let scientists get back to being scientists... I certainly agree that we were all better off when Fauci wasn't giving press conferences and wasn't being asked to make public policy (which IS NOT HIS JOB - no matter how many or often reporters ask him!)

Fauci said that GOF research was worth a global pandemic or 2 and here we are after he funded Bill Gate's Eco-Health doing GOFR in Wuhan, since it was banned in the US.

You love to ignore this.

@bi4smooth

Maybe you should read up on Climate-gate or Fauci's role in the AZT scandal before you worship scientists.

Scientists aren't saints. Many of them are dirty as hell.

Scientists are people too... none of us are perfect.

Look, I haven't looked up Fauci's role in AZT - because I already know the NIH's and FDA's role in the drug. From my memory:

• they attempted to run double-blind tests, but the AIDS patients didn't care - they would find each other and either "pool pills" or determine (because it wasn't that hard) which one had the real drugs, and those who didn't bought the real AZT on the black-market)
• they (the FDA) already knew how dangerous the drug was because it was a failed cancer treatment... and the side effects were not "within the scope" of the AIDS disease's side effects, so it was easy for the medical professionals to tell who was on AZT and who was not.
• people (and doctors) were LITERALLY "grasping at straws" for ANYTHING that night help - and AIDS sufferers routinely offered themselves up as Guinea-Pigs - knowing they were going to die, but hoping (praying) that they might help others.

Mind you, the Gay Community was a fuck-load more closely-knit community then vs the way things are now. I personally knew a sizeable percentage of ALL out queers in the Cape Canaveral area... and they knew me. And we knew who was sick and who wasn't (we didn't even have the term HIV in the mid-80s when I started work there!)

Also: this was the 1980's and 1990's - medicine was still largely "witch-doctory" -- that is, "experiments" were largely "let's try this!" - throw something (EVERYTHING) at it, and see what works - even a little bit! AZT was hardly the first, nor the last failed "other" drug tried against AIDS. Still, they WERE using the "scientific method" (where they could - see above where AIDS patients themselves were destroying/invalidating research!) - try something, prove it's wrong, identify why/where/how it's wrong (to learn from your failure), and try something else... lather, rinse, repeat. (Guess, Test, evaluate, repeat)

Modern medicine isn't perfect, but it's LIGHTYEARS ahead of that! We developed the mRNA vaccines based on DNA sequencing of the virus itself! Technology that wasn't even DREAMED of in 1990! Even so, there was quite a bit of trepidation at giving those early nRNA based COVID-19 shots to humans! It's TRUE that it was tested in ways that short-circuited several safeguards... but, as with the AIDS crisis, when people are dying in large numbers, you "do what you have to do".

Ironic that you want to throw Fauci under-the-bus for AZT, but you have no ill-regard for Trump's touting of crazy COVID-19 theories:

• “Supposing we hit the body with a tremendous – whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful – light,” -- said at a news conference, not while "brainstorming" with scientists...
• “And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside, or almost a cleaning?” - hundreds of US citizens died from injecting or ingesting cleaning fluids as a result of that flippant remark...
• And let's not forget hydroxychloroquine - an anti-malarial drug, with known serious side-effects... in opposition to the "modern medicine" approach of extracting the viral DNA and perfecting a treatment targeting that DNA, this was more of the old-school "throw anything at it and see what works, even if just a little"... only, in all of the CONTROLLED studies, it rarely worked.(Though it DID work in some cases, which helped them find better TREATMENTS (though, still no CURES) for the disease.) Still, Trump (really, more his supporters - he dropped the idea mostly, it was his supporters who wouldn't/couldn't let it die!) continued to push it - almost like religious "trust me" argument - long past the definitive studies that showed the cost-benefit was sharply skewed towards the COST side...

Mind you: hydroxychloroquine was NOT the unmitigated failure that light (much less, cancer-causing UV light) or IV cleaning supplies were! Its use DID help a few people, and more importantly DID lead to better treatments for CIVID-19 overall... like any good TEST SUBJECT, it wasn't THE ANSWER - but it helped us get CLOSER TO IT!

Maybe you should read up on Climate-gate or Fauci's role in the AZT scandal before you worship scientists.

Scientists aren't saints. Many of them are dirty as hell.

@bi4smooth Nah. You're just stupid. I don't think that nurses are in on a conspiracy. I think you're dumb. The numbers are in, and it IS 95% in the highest vaccinated places, Israel, Norway, Iceland, Maine, Singapore, Australia.... the hospitals are filled with people who have been VACCINATED. You're stupid. There really isn't much to say because it doesn't matter. The ones in the hospital are not as Fauci claims without evidence, the unvaxxed. You just don't know what you're talking about.

Plus, that number (95%) is even in question, because Covid is just the Flu. The PCR test has been UN-authorized. That's the test they use to determine if you have Covid. That means the test itself is no longer authorized, and your numbers are based on a false test. Meaning, all your numbers are bullshit. So you can pick and choose which federal agency you want. The CDC versus the FDA. It doesn't matter. We all know that you're full of shit. Just let it go. The creator of the PCR said it's not a diagnostic and it can't determine if you're infected. It can determine if a steel wall has a little Vitamin C. That doesn't mean anything. God damn you're dumb. Just shut the hell up already.

I'm not the illiterate one...

• 95% of the people in hospital with COVID or COVID-like symptoms are UN (non) (did not take the shot) vaccinated.
• There are DOZENS of kinds of tests for COVID-19. (Look out on Tic-Tok for a way kids are fooling one of the quick-tests by dipping the specimen stick into a coke! - Mind you it doesn't mean coke products have COVID-19, all it does is "break the test" - and rinsing the stick restores the test results, if there were any)

Funny about the difference between you and actual scientists:

• Actual scientists go out of their way to prove they are wrong - about everything! It's the scientific method!
• You go out of your way to prove you're right - about every insignificant detail - even when you've clearly made a mistake, you insist you are right - mostly in a childlike manner: repeating yourself, saying it louder or multiple times, and lastly calling the other person names...

Plus, that number (95%) is even in question, because Covid is just the Flu. The PCR test has been UN-authorized. That's the test they use to determine if you have Covid. That means the test itself is no longer authorized, and your numbers are based on a false test. Meaning, all your numbers are bullshit. So you can pick and choose which federal agency you want. The CDC versus the FDA. It doesn't matter. We all know that you're full of shit. Just let it go. The creator of the PCR said it's not a diagnostic and it can't determine if you're infected. It can determine if a steel wall has a little Vitamin C. That doesn't mean anything. God damn you're dumb. Just shut the hell up already.

"Probably Florida: our Governor seems to think this is all a joke"

Do you mean like Biden? On his very first afternoon in office, he violated his own mask mandate on federal land.

Do you mean like Gov Whitmer?

Do you mean like your High Priestess Pelosi?

Do you mean like Chuckles Schumer?

Do you mean like Mayor Beetlejuice?

Do you mean like DC's mayor?

Do you mean like Gov Newsome?

Do you mean like the Texas Dems?

Do you mean like those that met with the Texas Dems?

Do you mean like the BBC?

Do you mean like CNN?

Do you mean like MSNBC?

Do you mean like anyone claiming that BLM and Antifa rioting and looting didn't spread C-19, but peaceful protests did?

Do you mean like Extinction Rebellion various protests of stoned hippy dancing and titty milk spraying without masks screeching that the world is going to cease to exist if they don't get their way?

As always, you always fail to mention your side when you get butthurt about C-19.

@bi4smooth You're dumb. 95% of Covid hospitalizations are vaccinated. 5% are not. Let's go back to kindergarten math, k?

Your source is badly misinformed.... and you need to apply even a modicum of critical thinking when you post crap like that. Your numbers don't pass the smell test - not even close!

What are some real numbers?

So, on Aug 2 (2021), the US CDC reported that there are a little over 60,000 people in the US who are actively (on that date) in Hospital, diagnosed with COVID-19. (in 49 states and 5 territories... 1 state (unlisted by the CDC) is refusing to provided data - Probably Florida: our Governor seems to think this is all a joke).

Of those, 50,000 (yes, Virgina, this is a SPIKE in new cases! That's 80% of the people in Hospital RIGHT NOW) are new patients (admitted THIS WEEK).

• Don't forget, every week: some go home: family or funeral, some go home...

About 16,000 of those US COVID-19 patients currently in Hospital are in an ICU unit, with another 1,000-2,000 in hospitals that WOULD put them into an ICU unit, but there are none available. (That is between 1 and 2 thousand "loved ones" who CANNOT get the care they need because there is no room)...

but all of that doesn't address your utterly ridiculous contention that 95% were vaccinated...

The CDC doesn't have (or at least doesn't provide a current tally of patients who are considered "breakthrough" - had the vaccine and still got sick enough to need hospitalization... but that's because those numbers are insignificantly low... what they DO have (and publicize) is a running tally - of ALL vaccinated people who have been hospitalized with COVID-19... and on Aug 2 (2021), that number was 7525. TOTAL - from when vaccines were introduced in January/February, 2021 to Aug 2, 2021.

Oh, and of those "breakthrough" cases, 5557 (74% if you like statistics) were age 65 or older!

This does 2 things:

• 1 shows your "numbers" to be wildly off-base... (If 95% of hospitalizations were from people who WERE vaccinated, don't you think SOMEONE - in a MEDICAL field, not some political hack/talking head - would be trying to convince the Government to shutdown the vaccination programs? If not in the US, then in any of the OTHER 192 countries in the UN? (Or is this a giant, world-wide conspiracy... probably being run by the lizard-people?)
• 2 These numbers show why the CDC and FDA are so strongly considering authorizing older, and immuno-compromised people to get a BOOSTER shot of the vaccine. (UPDATE: They authorized boosters for immuno-compromised people TODAY!)

This may come as a shock to you, but people who choose careers in medicine (whether as physicians, nurses, PAs, or other front-line people - or as researchers) rarely, if ever, make that choice because they want to harm people, or even control people. As someone with 3 members of the "medical community" in my family, I can attest that these people want (in general) to help other people - that is their calling. (Yes, there are some who took that career path for monetary reasons... you can't paint a family of professions with one broad stroke and not expect to miss some people! But the VAST majority of the people I know in medicine are in that profession - chose that profession - in order to help people... not make them sick, not to kill them, not for politics (there are, statistically, very few DOCTORS in politics!)

@bi4smooth No Dum Dum. The Chief Pathologist in Germany said that 1/3 of the deaths in Germany are in vaccinated people. That's what he said. He's the Chief Pathologist. I guess you missed that part. Or how severe it is. I think the old adage "you can't handle the truth" is the truth here. You're just too fucking stupid too get it.

Ummm.... let's spell this out - in FIRST GRADE terms so you can see:

If 1/3 of the COVID-19 deaths in Germany are in people who have been vaccinated, what would that tell you about the other 2/3 of the COVID-19 deaths in Germany/

| You have 3 apples:

• 2 are RED (representing people who died of COVID-19 WITHOUT a vaccine)
• 1 is Golden (yellowish) (representing people who dies of COVID-19 even WITH a vaccine)

Test Questions:

• Did the vaccine turn the one apple yellow?
• Did the vaccine turn the orange INTO an apple?
• Would eating any of the apples turn you into a computer?

Now, here's a 2nd Grade question: What is the RATIO of RED apples to GOLDEN ones?

And an even HARDER, 4th Grade question: From the data provided, does having the vaccine alter your odds of dying from COVID-19?

Answers:

• no, the vaccine did not alter the apple colors - the apples are just representations
• no, the vaccine did not change the nature of the apples
• no, there is nothing you could eat, drink, or even DO to turn you into a computer - this isn't Star Trek!
• There are TWICE the number of RED apples (dead people who WERE NOT vaccinated) as there are GOLDEN apples (dead people who WERE vaccinated)
• The odds of dying of COVID-19 are DOUBLED if you are NOT vaccinated

I'm sorry, but from your earlier posts, it appears that you will need to attend summer school - for the next decade - to catch up.

@bi4smooth Oh. Right. Right. The CHIEF PATHOLOGIST in GERMANY, says that over 1/3rd of the deaths experienced in recent days and weeks are occurring in the VACCINATED. The VACCINATED are dying. And you act like you're superior to the CHIEF PATHOLOGIST in GERMANY. Shut your mouth! You don't know what you're talking about! You're a liar. Go to hell. And stick that experimental jab up your ass you fucking liar! Like that guy is just making up numbers... Seriously!? You're so delusional at this point it's just pathetic. You were WRONG. Now you know...

You lunatic-fringe moron....

According to your own statistics, people in Germany that are vaccinated are not dying BECAUSE OF the COVID-19 vaccine, but rather IN SPITE OF the vaccine... and the medical authorities are saying that IN SUPPORT OF asking people to mask-up again!

I repeat: your intelligence (and ability to read and comprehend what you read) approaches that of a 1st Grader...

Fun with Dick & Jane:
See Dick run... See Jane run... how many people are running in the picture?
No, the picture with just 2 people in it, both of whom are running... how many people are running in the picture?

Oh, nevermind....

@bi4smooth No, you're an idiot. These are NUMBERS. By NATIONS. Official. You cannot answer. All you can say is, "you're an idiot." Germany says over 1/3rd of it's deaths are from VACCINATED people. Period. To ignore that means you are a shill. That's all.

The idiocy isn't from the numbers... (which I do not accept as factual)... nah, you're entitled to accept other people's made-up "facts"... and your believing them doesn't make you an idiot (gullible, perhaps, but not necessarily stupid...)

No, the proof of your idiocy comes from your absurd conclusion that they're actually dying of the vaccine.

@bi4smooth

Today Germany's Chief Pathologist reported that 30-40% of the nation's deaths are occurring in the vaccinated. That's 30-40% of people dying in Germany right now, are dying FROM the vaccination, not heart disease, not TB, not cancer, not obesity... over 1/3rd of the nation's deaths are happening in the Vaccinated. So we can add Germany to the list. Are you getting nervous yet?

https://www.newswars.com/sunday-live-democrats-prepare-to-lock-down-america-while-they-party-at-obama-super-spreader-event/

Also in the news today, a former Pfizer employee who worked with the executives in the company quit, and came out with documents showing that the vaccine is in fact a bioweapon. You don't know any of this stuff because you're not watching the real news.

https://banned.video/watch?id=610b15ec4b401c2c26621b15

You. Don't. Know. What. You. Are. Talking. About.

And yes, the Democrats are making it political. They want a permanent lockdown, and a passport so they can tell you that if you don't get their deadly vaccine, you don't get to buy or sell, you don't even get to get on the bus. That is identical to the Mark of the Beast. Makes sense, as Bill Gates' vaccine patent #060606 hooks you up to the grid through 5g. It's not a conspiracy, it's an actual patent. Wake up! Stop being a dummy. We're not taking the jab. When it has a 99.7-9% survival rate. It's stupid! There is no reason to worry about "Covid" (the common cold).

You're an idiot. Plain and simple.
Darwin? Over here please!

Today Germany's Chief Pathologist reported that 30-40% of the nation's deaths are occurring in the vaccinated. That's 30-40% of people dying in Germany right now, are dying FROM the vaccination, not heart disease, not TB, not cancer, not obesity... over 1/3rd of the nation's deaths are happening in the Vaccinated. So we can add Germany to the list. Are you getting nervous yet?

https://www.newswars.com/sunday-live-democrats-prepare-to-lock-down-america-while-they-party-at-obama-super-spreader-event/

Also in the news today, a former Pfizer employee who worked with the executives in the company quit, and came out with documents showing that the vaccine is in fact a bioweapon. You don't know any of this stuff because you're not watching the real news.

https://banned.video/watch?id=610b15ec4b401c2c26621b15

You. Don't. Know. What. You. Are. Talking. About.

And yes, the Democrats are making it political. They want a permanent lockdown, and a passport so they can tell you that if you don't get their deadly vaccine, you don't get to buy or sell, you don't even get to get on the bus. That is identical to the Mark of the Beast. Makes sense, as Bill Gates' vaccine patent #060606 hooks you up to the grid through 5g. It's not a conspiracy, it's an actual patent. Wake up! Stop being a dummy. We're not taking the jab. When it has a 99.7-9% survival rate. It's stupid! There is no reason to worry about "Covid" (the common cold).

@bi4smooth

Umm, it was the WHO and China that played politics. Maybe you were too busy in Chinatown with Pelosi back then.

It's still strange that you claim to be a libertarian, yet you demand hivemind crap.

LOL - hivemind is what you propose, with your deep state conspiracies! (As-if all 2.2 million Federal Employees are united in their opposition to your wacky ideas! The truth is, there are 2.2 million unique minds in the US Federal Employment database... and about the same ratio are Democrat/Republican as the nation is divided as a whole.)

If actual Governments (of all kinds) were only HALF as competent as you propose the deep state is, there would be no hunger in this world - and no freedom (Governments - of all kinds, even Democracies - are tools to control people).

In the REAL WORLD Governments are inherently, and incurably incompetent. To find a Government that is not, is to find a Government so small as to be insignificant.

Does that mean we shouldn't expect more? no... just that we shouldn't be surprised when Governments do dumb things...

And, more importantly, while not always the case, certainly it is usually the case that when Governments do dumb things, it's due to incompetence and mismanagement, not conspiracies....

Umm, it was the WHO and China that played politics. Maybe you were too busy in Chinatown with Pelosi back then.

It's still strange that you claim to be a libertarian, yet you demand hivemind crap.

@bi4smooth

Umm, your party has made it political.

Mayor Beetlejuice is "kicking it" with celebs, unmasked while demanding that everyone else wear masks. Well, unless they want to riot and loot under the banner of BLM and Antifa, that is. If they want to peacefully protest against the mask mandates and lockdowns, your beloved police get out the heavy gear to crush the dissent.

DNC mayors, Govs, etc across the country are doing the same kinds of shit. DC's mayor did that massive unmasked wedding.

Your queen bee, Pelosi, while screeching about lockdowns and mask mandates sneaks off to get her hair done. Once caught, she claims she was tricked by the salon into doing it and she is 3rd in line to run the country.

Rules for thee, but not for me.

Biden, Harris, Pelosi, Schumer, Durbin, and countless other Dems have been photoed/videoed wearing the World Economic Forum's "Build Back Better" lapel pin. They have even made speeches in front of the BBB banner.

You see similar things across Europe, as well.

Covid-19 is purely political across the globe.

As a Fascist, NAZI, Trumpite, you have a predictably infantile knowledge about parts of the world that are not English-speaking! (For the record: I am no more a Democrat than you are a NAZI - but so long as we're slinging "extremist" labels...)

To be clear: The US is the origin of the politicization of modern medicine & more importantly public health. That "poison" has affected other countries - but mostly (though, certainly not limited to) English-speaking ones.

But many countries have avoided this poison: S. Korea, Japan (trying to avoid the Communist/Milary-controlled governments here - that's not fair: they don't fight against the Gov't because doing so is usually lethal), New Zealand, large swaths of Africa, and most of Northern & Eastern Europe - all have no significant political in-fighting about vaccines (except getting them faster) or masks.

We (Americans) are the stupid ones making this a political thing

And we are infecting the rest of the world with our stupidity...

So I'll say it again:

• Wear masks, or don't...
• Get a vaccine, or don't...
• either way, you are participating in a Darwin-esque change (edit) to the Human Genome... and removing the genes of the incredibly gullible and otherwise stupid from the Human Genome shouldn't be considered all bad...

Umm, your party has made it political.

Mayor Beetlejuice is "kicking it" with celebs, unmasked while demanding that everyone else wear masks. Well, unless they want to riot and loot under the banner of BLM and Antifa, that is. If they want to peacefully protest against the mask mandates and lockdowns, your beloved police get out the heavy gear to crush the dissent.

DNC mayors, Govs, etc across the country are doing the same kinds of shit. DC's mayor did that massive unmasked wedding.

Your queen bee, Pelosi, while screeching about lockdowns and mask mandates sneaks off to get her hair done. Once caught, she claims she was tricked by the salon into doing it and she is 3rd in line to run the country.

Rules for thee, but not for me.

Biden, Harris, Pelosi, Schumer, Durbin, and countless other Dems have been photoed/videoed wearing the World Economic Forum's "Build Back Better" lapel pin. They have even made speeches in front of the BBB banner.

You see similar things across Europe, as well.

Covid-19 is purely political across the globe.

@bi4smooth You are just lying. The facts are in.

Sydney Australia reported last week 141 people hospitalized with Covid, 140 were vaccinated.
Israel reported that 95% of the hospitalizations were already vaccinated.
Norway reported that 500 hospitalizations were all already vaccinated.
Singapore reported that 85% of hospitalizations were already vaccinated.
And these are the most vaccinated places on Earth. The same goes for Iceland and the State of Maine, the most vaccinated State in the US. You either are totally ignorant of the actual facts or you're just lying.

I think if you don't acknowledge these facts, you're just lying. You just don't know what you're talking about. Even if this virus does exist, the "experts" have claimed from the beginning that only .26% who CAN be infected (not the young) die. That's not a pandemic. That's just bullshit. More people die every year of tuberculosis, x1000 in fact. You acting like this is so doom and gloom and we all need to get vaccinated for something that's not even deadly is just ridiculous and theater. You are a drama queen and nobody gives a shit. You can take that jab and stick it right up your ass.

Not to mention Big Pharma is posting billions in profits. While small business suffers. They wouldn't lie! Get real. They have lied and been sued in court for billions. I wouldn't be at all surprised if you had stock in these companies. they do not care about you or your family. They are not run by scientists. They are rum by corporate boards that only care about money. Quit being a dimwit cheerleader for those kinds of people.

Yup - The US health infrastructure is lying about the makeup of their ER's. If you look PAST the news reports, the ER's are empty and the ICUs are too... no COVID here really, it's just a SCAM to make money.

Really?

I don't know about other countries, but the 3 vaccines in the US are all purchased by the US Government. They funded the research (under the Trump Administration), and part of the funding agreements is this little clause: the US Government gets to buy all the vaccine it wants - AT COST. (Trump DOES know how to structure a contract for his own benefit!)

Maybe now you understand why the stock prices of Pfizer, Moderna, and J&J haven't gone through the roof!

As i stated in another thread: I'm tired of arguing about the politics here. This shouldn't be political, it should be medical.

Test or don't
Mask or don't
Vaccinate or don't

Choose the wrong one, and you will likely get sick and you may even DIE.
Go 3 for 3 and you've got a really good chance to not die.

Those who are dying in the US are nearly-all un-vaccinated. While they aren't polling, they stastically are mostly Republican voters.

Continuing to fight this politically... is political suicide for Republicans! not for political reasons, but for population reasons.... MATH reasons.

Mitch McConnell held a press conference and urged EVERYONE to get vaccinated!
Republican Governors are telling anti-vaxxers "You're the problem - this is your fault" (clearly not my Governor - Florida's Governor thinks this will all blow over... He's a moron, and despite his being a Republican, he deserves to lose next November)