I have been extremely consistent in my beliefs, except when nuance is needed.

Your beloved liberals scream that Trump doesn't deserve what even they call "human rights".

Those same liberals, that you love so much, play both sides of 230 (publisher and platform) while enjoying its protections. You support their fuckery on this topic because they punish and suppress conservative voices.

You also support businesses having "human rights", but I'll bet you don't support a rusty shovel having the same human rights. Neither are human but in your bigotry, you support one having human rights and not the other.

@bi4smooth

Ah, you are one of those "corporations have human rights" people.

You are against cancel culture, but you aren't really upset when it happens to people you don't like, such as Trump.

I know that the 1st Amendment only applies to the government. DUH.

That being said, your beloved liberal social media constantly lie about free speech. Twitter, FB, and YouTube have all said that "free speech" is a human right. Of course, what they won't say is that they really mean it's their "human right" to have their platform in every country and they get to decide what we the scum get to say.

Parler is allowed in Nigeria, but not FB and Twitter. Your beloved liberals hate this.

Your side hates the Hobby Lobby ruling, but then uses it to say that corporations they like have human rights globally.

You must be illiterate. I quite literally said, just a few posts above, that I didn't agree with their censoring Trump.

I don't believe in "situational ethics" - which is why, as a pro-lifer, I believe that "exceptions for rape and incest" are ridiculous! Since when do we sentence children to death for the crimes of their fathers?

The person who seems to be wishy-washy about "freedom" here is you: you love it when it helps your side, you decry it when it hurts.

Ah, you are one of those "corporations have human rights" people.

You are against cancel culture, but you aren't really upset when it happens to people you don't like, such as Trump.

I know that the 1st Amendment only applies to the government. DUH.

That being said, your beloved liberal social media constantly lie about free speech. Twitter, FB, and YouTube have all said that "free speech" is a human right. Of course, what they won't say is that they really mean it's their "human right" to have their platform in every country and they get to decide what we the scum get to say.

Parler is allowed in Nigeria, but not FB and Twitter. Your beloved liberals hate this.

Your side hates the Hobby Lobby ruling, but then uses it to say that corporations they like have human rights globally.

@manhandler

But our resident fake conservative loves censorship when it blocks conservative voices.

He like that back in the 1st time Congress held hearing about "big tech" censorship, of the 23 politicians that were banned from social media, only 1 was a liberal.

He loves the fact that "big tech", despite their lies about free speech, refuse to allow discussion that is outside of their world view, while enjoying 230 protection.

He loves that "big tech" acts as a publisher and a platform while, in extremely bad faith, enjoying 230 protections.

He loves that FB and Twitter are far, far more guilty of allowing organizing riots and other crimes, including the worst event in the entire human history; 6 Jan 2021, but Parler got taken down and falsely accused of what liberal tech was actually guilty of.

He claims to be a "conservative libertarian" while telling us that we need to fall, lock step in line with the liberal utopian collective. There isn't a liberal dogma that he won't defend.

Thanks again for assigning to me a position that I've never taken. This would be akin to my ascribing to you the position that the US Government should take over operations for Twitter, Google, and Facebook.

I am not in favor of censorship, but I am in favor of "individual rights" - even for Corporations.

When Twitter suspended Trump, I was not a fan of the move. I've never said they did the right thing, only that it was within their rights to do it. Sadly, I do not sit on the Board at Twitter, nor am I a stockholder... in fact, I'm not even a subscriber! Thus, I don't think Twitter cares any more than you do about what I think of their action.

However, they are a private enterprise, and are free to (within some limits) run their business how they see fit. And if that means they decline allowing certain people (and it's not based on some protected class) access to their platform, that is within their rights. (That is exactly the same principle as the Supreme Court ruled when they supported the right of the wedding cake shop to decline the customer who wanted a gay wedding cake.)

Your frequent claim of 1st Amendment rights in this case are moot: the 1st Amendment applies to Governments, not corporations (or individuals).

You also like to harp on "230 protections" - which some services (like Twitter, Facebook, and the YouTube part of Google) would need to have in order to be actually viable. Take away the 230 protections, and Twitter would need to hire thousands of "editors" to "review" every post to confirm that they don't break any laws that Twitter might be found in violation of, were it NOT FOR 230 protections....
In such a world, your Twitter post might become public in 2-minutes, 2-hours, or 2-months... depending on how far backed-up they were in their processing. And completely forget YouTube: more video is uploaded in a DAY at YouTube than a single person could watch in some number of YEARS (I've heard that statistic as 1 year, 5 years, and 10 years - all are plausible if you consider how YouTube is growing).

You want the Internet? You gotta accept it for what it is: a mix of free-minded, free-spirited individuals in-it-for-the-fun-of-it, and corporations in-it-for-the-money! I can assure you that, if sufficient subscribers dropped Twitter in favor of Trumpster, Twitter would change their tune!

And finally, I will briefly repeat that your argument about Parler is absurd on its face - if for no other reason than because it's alive-and-well - right now - on another platform. One of thousands of available platforms that are in competition with AWS. Parler was removed from AWS the same way HUNDREDS of AWS clients are "de-platformed" every day - for being in consistent and repeated violation of their Terms of Service. Parler just cried louder than the others - and for no reason but the publicity. IF the de-platforming had come as a complete surprise (it wasn't), it might have taken their tech team 48-hours to have transferred everything to another platform. Depending on how much data was involved, it might just as easily have been done in 2-4 hours (yes, two-to-four, not 24). When AWS de-platforms you, they disconnect your systems from the Internet - they don't confiscate your data!

Your repeated claims - disproven each time - that their is a mass conspiracy focused solely on Trump is tired and overworn. Find a new song... I'm tired of this one.

But our resident fake conservative loves censorship when it blocks conservative voices.

He like that back in the 1st time Congress held hearing about "big tech" censorship, of the 23 politicians that were banned from social media, only 1 was a liberal.

He loves the fact that "big tech", despite their lies about free speech, refuse to allow discussion that is outside of their world view, while enjoying 230 protection.

He loves that "big tech" acts as a publisher and a platform while, in extremely bad faith, enjoying 230 protections.

He loves that FB and Twitter are far, far more guilty of allowing organizing riots and other crimes, including the worst event in the entire human history; 6 Jan 2021, but Parler got taken down and falsely accused of what liberal tech was actually guilty of.

He claims to be a "conservative libertarian" while telling us that we need to fall, lock step in line with the liberal utopian collective. There isn't a liberal dogma that he won't defend.

LOL, you keep proving you have extreme TDS.

Of course, I knew about Reagan and Tip O'Neil. DUH!!!!!

No, Trump is the FIRST AND ONLY US President

EVER

To demand such unfettered, unwavering, and uninterrupted fealty!

Sieg Heil!
Hail Caesar!

(More to the point, Reagan was famous for his political wrangling with then-Democratic Speaker of the House Tip O'Neil... they pretty much ran the country... if one or the other didn't want it, it didn't happen!

1 a Democrat, the other a Republican... and compromise was the word of the day (for all 8 years of Reagan's term)

LOL, are you trying to convince us that Reagan demanded blind obedience?

Did you know that Kennedy said, "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country"? Maybe Reagan was a Kennedy Democrat.

@jsl76 said in One Pallet of Ballots left to count.:

@raphjd said in One Pallet of Ballots left to count.:

Go back to sniffing Pelosi's panties.

Can you imagine what all that formaldehyde would do to your sinuses?

Sigh - you continue to refer to your cause as Conservatism - even though you were never a Conservative before Trump, and Trumpsim is far more Authoritarian and Fascist than actual Conservatism.

If there's a RINO in this room, it's the ca. 2016 convert, not the one with a 30-year history in the party.

I'm pretty sure you've never met me, dude.

@bi4smooth said in One Pallet of Ballots left to count.:

@jsl76 said in One Pallet of Ballots left to count.:

@raphjd said in One Pallet of Ballots left to count.:

Go back to sniffing Pelosi's panties.

Can you imagine what all that formaldehyde would do to your sinuses?

Sigh - you continue to refer to your cause as Conservatism - even though you were never a Conservative before Trump, and Trumpsim is far more Authoritarian and Fascist than actual Conservatism.

If there's a RINO in this room, it's the ca. 2016 convert, not the one with a 30-year history in the party.

LOL, you are a clown.

You are the fake as fuck conservative who voted for the true Authoritarian and Fascist when you pulled the lever for racist, homophobic, dirty as fuck Honest Joe.

You, idiots, have no clue what words mean, you just babble the buzz words you hear on CNN.

Your own words over the last few months have shown that you have a very 1984 version of "conservative libertarianism". Every time you post something, I automatically think of the Pink Floyd video for Another Brick in the Wall with the faceless kids marching in unison. That vision of the US is something you and the DNC share.

If you knew what you were talking about (and you clearly do not), you would know that you're referring to "Reagan Republicanism" - and your contention that the DNC is equivalent to Reagan Republicanism is laughable.

I don't need to reply further - your own demonstration of a total lack of knowledge or perspective is sufficient...

@jsl76 said in One Pallet of Ballots left to count.:

@raphjd said in One Pallet of Ballots left to count.:

Go back to sniffing Pelosi's panties.

Can you imagine what all that formaldehyde would do to your sinuses?

Sigh - you continue to refer to your cause as Conservatism - even though you were never a Conservative before Trump, and Trumpsim is far more Authoritarian and Fascist than actual Conservatism.

If there's a RINO in this room, it's the ca. 2016 convert, not the one with a 30-year history in the party.

LOL, you are a clown.

You are the fake as fuck conservative who voted for the true Authoritarian and Fascist when you pulled the lever for racist, homophobic, dirty as fuck Honest Joe.

You, idiots, have no clue what words mean, you just babble the buzz words you hear on CNN.

Your own words over the last few months have shown that you have a very 1984 version of "conservative libertarianism". Every time you post something, I automatically think of the Pink Floyd video for Another Brick in the Wall with the faceless kids marching in unison. That vision of the US is something you and the DNC share.

@raphjd said in One Pallet of Ballots left to count.:

Go back to sniffing Pelosi's panties.

Can you imagine what all that formaldehyde would do to your sinuses?

Sigh - you continue to refer to your cause as Conservatism - even though you were never a Conservative before Trump, and Trumpsim is far more Authoritarian and Fascist than actual Conservatism.

If there's a RINO in this room, it's the ca. 2016 convert, not the one with a 30-year history in the party.

Go back to sniffing Pelosi's panties.

Can you imagine what all that formaldehyde would do to your sinuses?

LOL, and you spend your time looking for reasons to justify your hatred of conservatives.

Go back to sniffing Pelosi's panties.

@manhandler said in One Pallet of Ballots left to count.:

@raphjd Yea, their own leaders like Klobuchar and Warren, I think, said Electronic Voting was going to lead to fraud, then 2020 and they say nothing...

They even had the commission headed by Jimmy Carter that showed that all this crap was rife for voter fraud.

This is why they used it in 2020, because it was shown to be rife with fraud.

Hell, even without mass mailing ballots, liberal areas have rampant voter fraud. I have already made threads about some of the areas; Broward County FL, Wayne County MI, the county San Antonia TX is in, and many others.

We aren't talking disputes over "hanging chads" and the like, but actual voter fraud and fraud by the election officials in the areas.

Project Veritas and Steven Crowder showed massive voter fraud. The videos are on YouTube, for the most part except the ones that got removed because of the rules that ban talking about election fraud in the 2020 election. You can find them on other media platforms that aren't owned by leftists.

ANY source (news or otherwise) that doesn't support your view is wrong, ill-informed, leftist, or just evil. Pure, unadulterated IDEOLOGY above knowledge or truth... in other words: IDEOLOGUE!

@raphjd Yea, their own leaders like Klobuchar and Warren, I think, said Electronic Voting was going to lead to fraud, then 2020 and they say nothing...

They even had the commission headed by Jimmy Carter that showed that all this crap was rife for voter fraud.

This is why they used it in 2020, because it was shown to be rife with fraud.

Hell, even without mass mailing ballots, liberal areas have rampant voter fraud. I have already made threads about some of the areas; Broward County FL, Wayne County MI, the county San Antonia TX is in, and many others.

We aren't talking disputes over "hanging chads" and the like, but actual voter fraud and fraud by the election officials in the areas.

Project Veritas and Steven Crowder showed massive voter fraud. The videos are on YouTube, for the most part except the ones that got removed because of the rules that ban talking about election fraud in the 2020 election. You can find them on other media platforms that aren't owned by leftists.

I posted about a couple of Steven Crowder's videos that prove voter fraud and as always, liberals claimed they were total lies without ever watching the videos.

Liberals of all ilks have no problem with this.

Lies, lies, lies. As usual. But good game, comrade.

They're going to say "there was fraud"... and then they have to go to court to get anything done about it...

De ja vu all over again!