• Contact sheet with >= 20 thumbnails and each about 200 width or 3 pictures from the movie, clip or picture collection, size at least SD size (576 pixel width, height at least 40% of width) or the resolution of the movie

Please explain to all mods that screenshots of the movie at the movie's resolution is acceptable.  I received this PM from a  :cens::

The set of pictures you have been uploading to certain torrents are way too small. Only upload high quality resolution pictures, at least bigger than the ones you've tried in the past. Failing to do so will get them disapproved, hence, no seed bonus points.

The only reason he saw them to begin with is that the pics were deleted during the upload process, so I had to add them afterwards; hence the seed bonus remark (which I could care less about).  I include screenshots for two reasons:  to show the actual content of the movie and to visually demonstrate the resolution of the movie.  As I upload lots of vintage/older stuff, sometimes the best resolution is 320x240 which produces very small screenshots.

Please avoid insulting names for a staff member!!!

General:

• Studio/Distributor/Site, Product Line, Clip or Movie Title for non-Themed Movie / TV torrents
• Title, Year of release, spoken language(s), sub-title language(s) for Themed Movie / TV torrents
• If a series with a numbering, e.g. SC1251 or S02E13 (can be written out), number provided

Torrent Pictures:

• Full or front cover (DVD, Cassette, CD) size at least 250 pixel height
• Contact sheet with >= 20 thumbnails and each about 200 width or 3 pictures from the movie, clip or picture collection, size at least SD size (576 pixel width, height at least 40% of width) or the resolution of the movie

Torrent Description:

• Comprehensive description or review
• Actor(s) / artist(s) name(s)
• Information of resolution (pixel), audio and video codecs, bit-rates given
• Information of source format (see tagging Table Q Quality and Origin tags)

Each item 1 point.

Well Prepared Torrent Upload Reward Check List

GENERAL
[  ] Identification      
[  ] Numbering

PICTURES
[  ] Cover              
[  ] Contact sheet or 3 pictures SD

DESCRIPTION
[  ] Comprehensive      
[  ] Actor(s)            
[  ] Coding info        
[  ] Source format

X / 8 MAX. POINTS GIVEN          
(for details see http://community.gaytor.rent/index.php?topic=15622 )

[b]Well Prepared Torrent Upload Reward Check List[/b]
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[b]GENERAL[/b]
 [  ] Identification       
 [  ] Numbering     

[b]PICTURES[/b]
 [  ] Cover               
 [  ] Contact sheet or 3 pictures SD

[b]DESCRIPTION[/b]
 [  ] Comprehensive       
 [  ] Actor(s)            
 [  ] Coding info         
 [  ] Source format       

[b]   X [/b]/ 8 MAX. [b]POINTS GIVEN [/b]           
[/font](for details see http://community.gaytor.rent/index.php?topic=15622 )

Gerald

… On the other hand have your activities improved the quality of my uploads. I add now things like resoluition,
video- and audioproperties and tags to my torrents. I even created something like a stylesheet.
...

There was a PM similar to me by another member, suggesting to make out of it a kind of guide or FAQ. Something certainly to take for an own new topic. Lets wait and see, the idea is boiling in my brain … :crazy2:

@andy32:

… I still think there should be some kind of reward for contributers.
Maybe a simplifieied version of your criteria-catalog?, sometime in the future. ...

That nobody gets me wrong: I am all for rewarding uploaders ! and give voluntarly my Seed Bonus Points. There are as well other ways:

• Clicking the thank you! button w/o giving points
• Making a nice comment if the upload was longly waited for or much liked (I love such comments on my own uploads)

I am just questioning if it shouldn't be the members who download rather than the site …

On the other hand have your activities improved the quality of my uploads. I add now things like resoluition,
video- and audioproperties and tags to my torrents. I even created something like a stylesheet.

I still think there should be some kind of reward for contributers.
Maybe a simplifieied version of your criteria-catalog?, sometime in the future.

Thanks ffor all your hard work, Gerald

BTW: I use the same tactic as ballard and upload minimum 10 - of course high-resolution - pictures
so no one can upload unrelated pictures - and most of the time they are  - and mess up my torrent.

Then at it's end. I stop the trial and distribute my SBP totally subjectively and by stomach. We will keep all together it's experience, which at least shows that objective verifiable criteria are possible (without to conclude on which are the good to retain and details of their individual definition).

Actually, why should the tracker which by it's existence is already facilitating the exchange, give extra rewards to the uploader ? Isn't that rather a task for the community here? I see many users sitting on SBP …

Here or in another topic was mentioned to give occasionally some extra seed bonus points out (birthdays, site university, christmas, chinese new year, ... what ever ...), which that could be spread by the members.

I am as well for having the possibility to exchange (at a bad rate) upload against seed bonus points

That's an easy one. For example he would never give me any point for any upload because I innocently admitted here that I have a crush on Sean from Corbin Fisher. For that I received a thumbs down and a sad face!!
I proudly stand by my crush.

Good point ballard. NHF.

due to the latest development at GT.ru (hiding uploader's username) you will never see me giving any seed bonus to some anonymous people, who might not even need it or deserve it.

Why do you need to know an uploader's username in order to determine if some upload deserves a reward?

…
At the risk of sounding snarky, at this point, I'm thankful for being my auto-approval status.  No expectations...no disappointment.

Expectation is the issue. If points are offered, it seems it is expected to get 100% of them for 120% of work, but 95% of result.

Some items in the list are driven by what is expected me as Moderator to help on approval:

• Alternative studio / titles
• Clip identifying picture
• Clip / Series numbers
• Studio name
• No QTM periods
• Comprehensive file names

All this help searching and as such will help members to search and find what they are looking for, respectively to have as much as possible information to search on the web more information about it.

As said early, the two tags items are there to get more uploads tagged, because without having the torrents in the existing library of torrents tagged, a transfer to a better system of tags once programmed will have less use. Only if torrents are tagged, a search by tags will be powerful. Without the torrents be tagged, it is dead.

In case it interest, my own uploads would get about 16 points following that list and they make me a lot of work.

Maybe my tastes are simple.  As I stated in the post above, all I really care about are an accurate title, a few pictures to tell me if the guys/scenes are hot enough, and some tags for whichever kinks appeal to me.

Anyway, like I said, I do applaud your efforts to respond to members' wanting rewards for their efforts.

Of course the criteria listed are chosen with a personal target of what makes a good description, and the one here discussed is a good IMHO (and got 19 points !), but still each point is objectively verifiable.

Please all notice this has been from the beginning a trial and to put emphasis on it, the word trail is no put in bold size 4 letters in the opening post. It was always there. It is not meant to be definitive or ultimate. It is subject to changes during the trial.

This trial in live permits to test and fine-tune that list and the details of the criteria, as well as their formulations.

I regret that when asking for help to formulate an objectively verifiable criteria for what a few good pictures mean, no proposal was made. Instead at the next occasion there is complaint that no points were given for (such) pictures …
Until someone gets up with a better definition it is :
"- 3 pictures from the movie, clip or picture collection, size at least SD size (576 pixel width, height at least 40% of width) or the resolution of the movie"

To note that with the latest adaptation of the criteria this morning, the before discussed torrent upload would have meat 21 points and gotten therefore the 20 max.

Do some people care about the codec?  I'm sure some do.  I don't.  I'm not sure a lot of people do.

Care about alt-title?  Maybe some do.  Not sure may, though.

How about:

Is the title correct?  Yay.  Is it in all upper and lower case letters, capitalized correctly?  I don't care.

Is the box cover included?  Yay.  Additional pictures?  Yay.  If not, I'm not gonna lose sleep.

Is there a url included for further info?  Yay!  If not, that's why I always have a tlavideo and aebn.net window open.  I'm capable of searching for myself.

Are there a few tags included?  Yay!  If not, again, tlavideo and aebn.net.

For me, that's all I need to make a decision of whether or not I want to download.

The size of the pictures?  Not a problem.

Bit rate?  Huh?

At the risk of sounding snarky, at this point, I'm thankful for being my auto-approval status.  No expectations…no disappointment.

hahahaha

@xenu:

and you still didnt give me point for my contact sheets i made which when clicked cover just over the size of the screen and are 300 x 240 and you wonder why i take it personal. did you even click on the contact sheets i made?
[ – ] Contact sheet       too small, max. 4 per row if >= 1024 px width, else good
http://tracker.gaytor.rent/details.php?id=110556 ….

yes, I clicked on it and even looked to the picture properties. It is 1023 pixel of width, with 5 pictures a row and large black bars between them. So the size of each thumbnail  is far below 200 pixel, less than the said 240 pixel in the requirements.  You shall have noticed that I earlier said:
@Uwe:

the black bars between them is because it is a full frame movie (1:33) and the screen is 16x9 to keep the proper aspect ratio. i was going by what YOU asked for in your very rigid criteria of what is "good". also it does not say it HAS to be or MUST BE 4 rows only. so this is a prime example of you LOOKING for things wrong, not checking a list. and you wonder why it's personal. no one else would have not given a point for this except you, Uwe.
…
The first shows there is a glitch in the Picture section, though there are meaningful contact sheets and a few big pictures (most likely from the site), as per the check list, no point is rewarded. I felt it should get a point for "a few good picture". Can someone help to phrase "some good pictures" in something more objective? …

No formulation proposal see made by any member yet ….

@xenu:

… My take on it: The golden blonde dream bottom takes on some of the best cocks in the Falcon canon! Especially good are seeing him take the lesser known, but huge cocks of Damon and Montes. ...

Sorry didn't see that. Point added.

surprised you admit you made a mistake.

@xenu:

… didnt point me for studio which is worded so many places even like this:
[ – ] Alt. studio/title  
Titles: Falcon Anthology Series Vol 22, Best of Derek Cameron, FAS022
Studio :  Falcon Anthology Series, Falcon Studios and in the torrent name …

That is not an alternative Studio or Distributor, nor another title. Just completing the title … This point is dedicated to the mention of the same movie distributed in other parts of the world with different branding and / or titles, e.g. early Cazzo by All Worlds Video > Cazzo - Pralle Lederhosen = All Worlds Video - Bulging Bavarians

**and one would know this, how? guessing. why is this even a criteria?

so even though the film has alternative titles that i included- it is known as The Best of Derek Cameron, it is known as FAS022, and it is known as Falcon Anthology Series Volume 22- these are not alternative titles to you? hence no objectivity, one was supposed to read your mind, what you "meant" not what you wrote…**

@xenu:

… and i guess this isnt enough tech info for you to give me a point for this?
Languages:  English
Sound: Dolby Digital 2.0 (Primary)
Aspect Ratio: Full-Frame, 1.33
Resolution: 848 x 480
Frame rate: 29f/s
Data Rate: 3220kbps
bitrate: 3284kbps
Digitally mastered
Source: ~web-rip ...

Not enough, the video codec isn't mentioned, bit rates are not given split between audio and video. Else it is good.

@xenu:

… no point for clip identifier which if this doesnt cover it i dont know what would:
Scene Descriptions (*Photos in Scene Order):

Scene 1
from "Manhandlers" FVP109
Derek Cameron, Jeff Palmer.
As pool boy Jeff Palmer attends to his duties, he spies Derek Cameron playing with himself poolside.  Jeff steps in and gives Derek a thorough workover...leaving the blond spent and soaked.

Scene 2
from "The Big Thrill" FVP117
Derek Cameron, Colby Taylor.
Derek Cameron and Colby Taylor find themselves alone. Colby smothers Derek with kisses and slowly they undress each other, sucking, licking, and nibbling on one another. They 69, each one taking the other's cock deep into his throat, contentedly nursing their cocks. Colby runs his fingers over Derek's hole, then stretches it open. He starts to fuck Derek, kissing him intensely on the back of his neck, burying and nuzzling his face against Derek's back. Derek begins to fuck Colby. The sexual energy is non-stop and feverish and the two lovers feed off each other. They bare their cocks and jerk off together, finally shooting thick ropes of cum as they satisfy their lust.

Scene 3
from "Fever" FVP119
Derek Cameron, Drew Damon.
Drew Damon and Derek Cameron meet up in the john.  Derek drops to his knees and starts sucking Drew's enormous cock.  Drew looks down as Derek works and worships his massive tool.  Before long Drew's hungry for more...sliding his cock deep into Derek's ass...slamming it in hard and fast and working Derek's load out before delivering his own load of cum.

Scene 4
from "Bounce" FVP136
Derek Cameron, Daniel Montes.
Daniel Montes reclines on a couch in briefs. Derek Cameron skillfully works his tongue down over Daniel's muscled chest and onto his huge stiff cock, where he lingers, worshipping it from tip to base. Daniel returns the favor and the men run their hands over each other, their skin tingling in anticipation of the sublime pleasure to come as they work themselves into a frenzy.

Scene 5
from "Splash Shots III: To The Hilt" FVP141
Derek Cameron, Roland Dane.
Roland Dane and Derek Cameron lose a frisbee in a neighbor’s pool. As Roland contemplates the floating disk, Derek pushes him into the pool. Determined to teach Derek a lesson, Roland corners him on a picnic table. Derek dutifully devotes some oral service to Roland’s stiff prick. Then Roland returns the favor-sucking Derek and opening his asshole. Roland takes advantage of the open hole, sliding his cock in deep and fucking Derek energetically before the two men surrender to the heat and blow their loads.

Scene 6
from "The Dark Side" FVP142
Derek Cameron, Race Jensen.
Daddy Race Jensen fucks his boy Derek Cameron on the kitchen table before feeding Derek just what he needs for breakfast -- a face full of his daddy's cum.

Scene 7
from "Deep South - The Big, And The Easy Part 1" FVP144
Chad Hunt, Clay Maverick, Jeremy Jordan, Derek Cameron, Sebastian Cole, Jason Tyler, Adam Wolfe.
Arriving in New Orleans, Josh Weston meets up with old friend Jack Ryan. Josh and Jack cut to the chase and discuss the missing boy.  Last time Jack saw him, Jeremy Jordan was being passed around a sex club "like a little doll"...Jeremy serves on one cock after another as a group of hot men have their way with him.

Scene 8
from "The Chosen" FVP111
Mike Branson, Jeff Palmer,  Michael Lucas, Derek Cameron, Buck Meadows, Travis Wade, Christopher Scott, Paul Morgan, Brian Cruise, and Damon Wolf.
Christopher Scott brings unsuspecting buds Derek Cameron, Paul Morgan and Damon Wolf to the club, where they quickly find themselves the slaves of leather-clad dominators Mike Branson, Jeff Palmer, Travis Wade, Buck Meadows, Brian Cruise and star in the making Michael Lucas. The action is fast and furious, one of the best orgies ever filmed. Cameron bottoms his heart out, while Palmer and Wade help boss the boys around. After a double penetration with Cameron getting fucked by Cruise and Palmer, the men shoot their loads. ...

That is an item in the list for which I wanted to give examples anyway. It is in the Pictures section, not description, and meant to "replace" the DVD or cassette cover item for clips from web-sites : a picture from the site with the title of the clip. An example will make it clear.

all this info was NOT on any one page or site. i looked up each movie by title after figuring it out by who the scene partner was (also researched not on the site) and found all 8 and then gave the breakdown for each movie and compiled them. gave the title and item number for each film the clip was taken from. doesnt matter. Uwe doesnt think this extra work means anything and unworthy of a point. looks for something else to deduct instead….

• an item for numbering of movies, clips or TV series provided

• an item for 3 SD pictures from the upload

• 10 pictures have no special requirement (but must be related to the upload according to the site rules)

Next step is to apply these changes for a few days.

Then follows the trial to publish the check list differently (most likely in the member's trial section)

Finally, I have decided to limit this trial to 2 weeks, because of the findings so far:

• much work
• no feedback at all from uploaders having got points except 1 (not being happy)
• general feedback allowed already to fine-tune the scheme
• my summer holidays :cheers:

and you still didnt give me point for my contact sheets i made which when clicked cover just over the size of the screen and are 300 x 240 and you wonder why i take it personal. did you even click on the contact sheets i made?
[ – ] Contact sheet      too small, max. 4 per row if >= 1024 px width, else good
http://tracker.gaytor.rent/details.php?id=110556 ….

yes, I clicked on it and even looked to the picture properties. It is 1023 pixel of width, with 5 pictures a row and large black bars between them. So the size of each thumbnail  is far below 200 pixel, less than the said 240 pixel in the requirements.  You shall have noticed that I earlier said:
@Uwe:

…
The first shows there is a glitch in the Picture section, though there are meaningful contact sheets and a few big pictures (most likely from the site), as per the check list, no point is rewarded. I felt it should get a point for "a few good picture". Can someone help to phrase "some good pictures" in something more objective? …

No formulation proposal see made by any member yet ….

@xenu:

… My take on it: The golden blonde dream bottom takes on some of the best cocks in the Falcon canon! Especially good are seeing him take the lesser known, but huge cocks of Damon and Montes. ...

Sorry didn't see that. Point added.

@xenu:

… didnt point me for studio which is worded so many places even like this:
[ – ] Alt. studio/title  
Titles: Falcon Anthology Series Vol 22, Best of Derek Cameron, FAS022
Studio :  Falcon Anthology Series, Falcon Studios and in the torrent name …

That is not an alternative Studio or Distributor, nor another title. Just completing the title … This point is dedicated to the mention of the same movie distributed in other parts of the world with different branding and / or titles, e.g. early Cazzo by All Worlds Video > Cazzo - Pralle Lederhosen = All Worlds Video - Bulging Bavarians

@xenu:

… and i guess this isnt enough tech info for you to give me a point for this?
Languages:  English
Sound: Dolby Digital 2.0 (Primary)
Aspect Ratio: Full-Frame, 1.33
Resolution: 848 x 480
Frame rate: 29f/s
Data Rate: 3220kbps
bitrate: 3284kbps
Digitally mastered
Source: ~web-rip ...

Not enough, the video codec isn't mentioned, bit rates are not given split between audio and video. Else it is good.

@xenu:

… no point for clip identifier which if this doesnt cover it i dont know what would:
Scene Descriptions (*Photos in Scene Order):

Scene 1
from "Manhandlers" FVP109
Derek Cameron, Jeff Palmer.
As pool boy Jeff Palmer attends to his duties, he spies Derek Cameron playing with himself poolside.  Jeff steps in and gives Derek a thorough workover...leaving the blond spent and soaked.

Scene 2
from "The Big Thrill" FVP117
Derek Cameron, Colby Taylor.
Derek Cameron and Colby Taylor find themselves alone. Colby smothers Derek with kisses and slowly they undress each other, sucking, licking, and nibbling on one another. They 69, each one taking the other's cock deep into his throat, contentedly nursing their cocks. Colby runs his fingers over Derek's hole, then stretches it open. He starts to fuck Derek, kissing him intensely on the back of his neck, burying and nuzzling his face against Derek's back. Derek begins to fuck Colby. The sexual energy is non-stop and feverish and the two lovers feed off each other. They bare their cocks and jerk off together, finally shooting thick ropes of cum as they satisfy their lust.

Scene 3
from "Fever" FVP119
Derek Cameron, Drew Damon.
Drew Damon and Derek Cameron meet up in the john.  Derek drops to his knees and starts sucking Drew's enormous cock.  Drew looks down as Derek works and worships his massive tool.  Before long Drew's hungry for more...sliding his cock deep into Derek's ass...slamming it in hard and fast and working Derek's load out before delivering his own load of cum.

Scene 4
from "Bounce" FVP136
Derek Cameron, Daniel Montes.
Daniel Montes reclines on a couch in briefs. Derek Cameron skillfully works his tongue down over Daniel's muscled chest and onto his huge stiff cock, where he lingers, worshipping it from tip to base. Daniel returns the favor and the men run their hands over each other, their skin tingling in anticipation of the sublime pleasure to come as they work themselves into a frenzy.

Scene 5
from "Splash Shots III: To The Hilt" FVP141
Derek Cameron, Roland Dane.
Roland Dane and Derek Cameron lose a frisbee in a neighbor’s pool. As Roland contemplates the floating disk, Derek pushes him into the pool. Determined to teach Derek a lesson, Roland corners him on a picnic table. Derek dutifully devotes some oral service to Roland’s stiff prick. Then Roland returns the favor-sucking Derek and opening his asshole. Roland takes advantage of the open hole, sliding his cock in deep and fucking Derek energetically before the two men surrender to the heat and blow their loads.

Scene 6
from "The Dark Side" FVP142
Derek Cameron, Race Jensen.
Daddy Race Jensen fucks his boy Derek Cameron on the kitchen table before feeding Derek just what he needs for breakfast -- a face full of his daddy's cum.

Scene 7
from "Deep South - The Big, And The Easy Part 1" FVP144
Chad Hunt, Clay Maverick, Jeremy Jordan, Derek Cameron, Sebastian Cole, Jason Tyler, Adam Wolfe.
Arriving in New Orleans, Josh Weston meets up with old friend Jack Ryan. Josh and Jack cut to the chase and discuss the missing boy.  Last time Jack saw him, Jeremy Jordan was being passed around a sex club "like a little doll"...Jeremy serves on one cock after another as a group of hot men have their way with him.

Scene 8
from "The Chosen" FVP111
Mike Branson, Jeff Palmer,  Michael Lucas, Derek Cameron, Buck Meadows, Travis Wade, Christopher Scott, Paul Morgan, Brian Cruise, and Damon Wolf.
Christopher Scott brings unsuspecting buds Derek Cameron, Paul Morgan and Damon Wolf to the club, where they quickly find themselves the slaves of leather-clad dominators Mike Branson, Jeff Palmer, Travis Wade, Buck Meadows, Brian Cruise and star in the making Michael Lucas. The action is fast and furious, one of the best orgies ever filmed. Cameron bottoms his heart out, while Palmer and Wade help boss the boys around. After a double penetration with Cameron getting fucked by Cruise and Palmer, the men shoot their loads. ...

That is an item in the list for which I wanted to give examples anyway. It is in the Pictures section, not description, and meant to "replace" the DVD or cassette cover item for clips from web-sites : a picture from the site with the title of the clip. An example will make it clear.

Obviously you don't have even the slightest clue of how hard is to maintain such a site working properly, when there are 100k people interacting with it each day, and everybody with his own complaints.

You don't give points to uploaders - no, that's bad, let's complain. You try to give points to uploaders - nope, it's still bad, no objectivity at awarding…

OK xenu, this may be a surprise to you, but you won't find absolute objectivity anywhere. That's life and you have to live with it.

And I'm very sorry you take everything that's going on here so personal.

the whole reason awarding a bonus that i and others brought up was rejected was because it was stated it was too much work for the moderators- now the moderators have made their job even more difficult and involved instead of awarding all uploads a standard bonus and leaving the well prepared torrents to be appreciated by the site members

i am so disappointed in gt.ruwe now.

i was told it wasnt personal when there is no way the points deducted wasnt- particularly when there have been 20 points awarded less comprehensive torrents.

gt.ru couldnt have gone more out of their way to not award points to my torrent if they tried. oh wait, they did try and won.

wonder if this post will now be deleted and when i will be banned from posting in the forum or from the site?

My take on it: The golden blonde dream bottom takes on some of the best cocks in the Falcon canon! Especially good are seeing him take the lesser known, but huge cocks of Damon and Montes.

didnt point me for studio which is worded so many places even like this:
[ – ] Alt. studio/title 
Titles: Falcon Anthology Series Vol 22, Best of Derek Cameron, FAS022
Studio :  Falcon Anthology Series, Falcon Studios and in the torrent name

and i guess this isnt enough tech info for you to give me a point for this?
Languages:  English
Sound: Dolby Digital 2.0 (Primary)
Aspect Ratio: Full-Frame, 1.33
Resolution: 848 x 480
Frame rate: 29f/s
Data Rate: 3220kbps
bitrate: 3284kbps
Digitally mastered
Source: ~web-rip

no point for clip identifier which if this doesnt cover it i dont know what would:
Scene Descriptions (*Photos in Scene Order):

Scene 1
from "Manhandlers" FVP109
Derek Cameron, Jeff Palmer.
As pool boy Jeff Palmer attends to his duties, he spies Derek Cameron playing with himself poolside.  Jeff steps in and gives Derek a thorough workover…leaving the blond spent and soaked.

Scene 2
from "The Big Thrill" FVP117
Derek Cameron, Colby Taylor.
Derek Cameron and Colby Taylor find themselves alone. Colby smothers Derek with kisses and slowly they undress each other, sucking, licking, and nibbling on one another. They 69, each one taking the other's cock deep into his throat, contentedly nursing their cocks. Colby runs his fingers over Derek's hole, then stretches it open. He starts to fuck Derek, kissing him intensely on the back of his neck, burying and nuzzling his face against Derek's back. Derek begins to fuck Colby. The sexual energy is non-stop and feverish and the two lovers feed off each other. They bare their cocks and jerk off together, finally shooting thick ropes of cum as they satisfy their lust.

Scene 3
from "Fever" FVP119
Derek Cameron, Drew Damon.
Drew Damon and Derek Cameron meet up in the john.  Derek drops to his knees and starts sucking Drew's enormous cock.  Drew looks down as Derek works and worships his massive tool.  Before long Drew's hungry for more...sliding his cock deep into Derek's ass...slamming it in hard and fast and working Derek's load out before delivering his own load of cum.

Scene 4
from "Bounce" FVP136
Derek Cameron, Daniel Montes.
Daniel Montes reclines on a couch in briefs. Derek Cameron skillfully works his tongue down over Daniel's muscled chest and onto his huge stiff cock, where he lingers, worshipping it from tip to base. Daniel returns the favor and the men run their hands over each other, their skin tingling in anticipation of the sublime pleasure to come as they work themselves into a frenzy.

Scene 5
from "Splash Shots III: To The Hilt" FVP141
Derek Cameron, Roland Dane.
Roland Dane and Derek Cameron lose a frisbee in a neighbor’s pool. As Roland contemplates the floating disk, Derek pushes him into the pool. Determined to teach Derek a lesson, Roland corners him on a picnic table. Derek dutifully devotes some oral service to Roland’s stiff prick. Then Roland returns the favor-sucking Derek and opening his asshole. Roland takes advantage of the open hole, sliding his cock in deep and fucking Derek energetically before the two men surrender to the heat and blow their loads.

Scene 6
from "The Dark Side" FVP142
Derek Cameron, Race Jensen.
Daddy Race Jensen fucks his boy Derek Cameron on the kitchen table before feeding Derek just what he needs for breakfast -- a face full of his daddy's cum.

Scene 7
from "Deep South - The Big, And The Easy Part 1" FVP144
Chad Hunt, Clay Maverick, Jeremy Jordan, Derek Cameron, Sebastian Cole, Jason Tyler, Adam Wolfe.
Arriving in New Orleans, Josh Weston meets up with old friend Jack Ryan. Josh and Jack cut to the chase and discuss the missing boy.  Last time Jack saw him, Jeremy Jordan was being passed around a sex club "like a little doll"...Jeremy serves on one cock after another as a group of hot men have their way with him.

Scene 8
from "The Chosen" FVP111
Mike Branson, Jeff Palmer,  Michael Lucas, Derek Cameron, Buck Meadows, Travis Wade, Christopher Scott, Paul Morgan, Brian Cruise, and Damon Wolf.
Christopher Scott brings unsuspecting buds Derek Cameron, Paul Morgan and Damon Wolf to the club, where they quickly find themselves the slaves of leather-clad dominators Mike Branson, Jeff Palmer, Travis Wade, Buck Meadows, Brian Cruise and star in the making Michael Lucas. The action is fast and furious, one of the best orgies ever filmed. Cameron bottoms his heart out, while Palmer and Wade help boss the boys around. After a double penetration with Cameron getting fucked by Cruise and Palmer, the men shoot their loads.

maybe this site should be called gt.ruwe

@xenu:

i have image grabber and mov and mkv are two i recently tried that dont work. any other grabber that will?

These work with Image Grabber II, if you have installed a media splitter and codec to play such files or got Windows 7. I guess you have installed such, if not install Haali Media Splitter to open the .mov, .mp4, .mkv files and ffdshow MPEG-4 (or tryouts SVN built) which adds tons of decoding support.

The trick is that Image Grabber II doesn't know these .mov and .mkv extensions to be AV files (certainly because of it's age and no longer supported), but you can select "show all files" or "."  as browsing option bottom right of its window.

dont understand this. i can play the scenes fine- just when i open the image grabber it errors or doesnt even show the thumbnails in the file for the mp4 or others- (looks empty)
:

and like i said it may be a vista glitch that makes this not work for me like it easily does for others. and it is easy for the files that work. lol

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There is only one thing.
I don't know if that would be too much work for the moderators but I wonder if it makes sense to award the points immediately at approval time.
This uploader (I assume it's the same in all three cases because the uploads are formatted in a similar way) does very well and gets rewarded for uploads meeting most criteria BUT there seem to be problems with his files!
Of course you guys cannot check the quality of the file at approval but waiting 24 hours before awarding the points gives you the opportunity to see the complaints in the comments section.
I haven't downloaded them myself so I can't tell what's wrong. But there seem to be issues.

http://tracker.gaytor.rent/details.php?id=110455
http://tracker.gaytor.rent/details.php?id=110496
http://tracker.gaytor.rent/details.php?id=110479

Fortunately, such not playing issues are quite seldom

Attribution these points takes some extra time, going back 24 hours later to rate will require more work either by reviewing a second time or by keeping well organised the results somewhere aside for 24 hours …

In fact we don't rate the files shared with the torrent, only how it is presented.