No standard Seed bonus for uploaders?
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… I may were glasses and thus have sight problems, but who, when and where said that kind of thing? ...
Uwe , there http://community.gaytor.rent/index.php?topic=15537.msg69229#msg69229
@Uwe:… If original uploader are thinking they really need each SBP, they can upload only with one mandatory picture and add 9 pictures after approval. ...
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The way xenu put it it sounded like an indication of what to do, though I understood Uwe was referring to a possibility to gain additional points, no-one told anyone to do it.
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i dont know how my point that uploaders should get bonus points for uploading a posted torrent keeps being ignored. …
It is not ignored. It has well been noticed, I am quite sure by all the Staff.
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instead bonus points are awarded for seeding torrents no one is leeching, and for uploading photos to someone else's post. ...Awarding seed bonus points for seeding torrents no one is currently downloading is not useless. First it is a way to get new members out of the first low ratio warning or taken download rights if made the wrong choice, secondly seeding old torrents is important to built up an as big base to exchanges as it is done here. For the picture bonus, there are many voices to make it zero and personally I don't oppose to it.
… agreed that in case someone wants to download a torrent that has as many seeders as some of the ones i have done, it is easy, but to keep seeding along with dozens or hundreds of other seeders with nil leechers seems pointless: ...
All thse are looking like torrents in their third season season as explained here http://community.gaytor.rent/index.php?topic=2690.msg69393#msg69393 . You need to wait for them being in the forth season … long time ago I've made the test, seeding only old torrents above 3 month, having many of those assured a permanent group of 10 active uploading data, filling my bandwidth. That was as well in a discussion topic about ratio issues.
…. my uploaded seeding has more life, but still they will be dead in a couple days: ...
Yep, 2nd season …
… i believe it was on another thread that a moderator suggested he be PM-ed if his green light was on because he could be conducting other business elsewhere on the site and did not always check the unposted torrent link or page where they go...i wont say WHO because i dont want them scolded. ...
That offer is only binding for him ;D and if it is the one I think, he is no longer very active on torrent approval, thus will not be disturbed on that task by such requests.
Frankly, I hate not to answer such requests, but objectively it is slowing down approval and therefore are contra productive. Only if you think everything is right and are seeding for more than 12 hours, you should consider to ask. I do invite as well first time uploader to ask in case of doubts. Personally i am always prepared to help to get the first upload finished. it is the most difficult.… the whole reason i started this was because without new uploads this site would die. ...
Fully agree to that. Perversely the (IMHO too high above 250 GB downloaded) minimum ratio requirements and taken download rights push many members to do a first upload, which else would never ever going through that "pain", which can become a pleasure.
… maybe the real reason is simply the extra work it would entail for the staff to create such a bonus?
if that is the case i understand totally- you have a lot to do already for such few people. and i know even fewer do the majority of it, since i look at the staff link to gauge how long my torrents might have to wait to be posted finally. …
That is the very reason. We got only one Administrator part time working on changes to the site and tracker. Moderators do not have access to it (and that is better). There are things on the to do list since I am Moderator. That is why I spoke about being "limited" or mgr in many posts say he agrees but we shall not keep our breath until changes happen
because he can't give any forecast of an implementation.Last changes were done about privacy and rather as a hotfix. I guess now it is worked on to make it in a proper way.
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Why can't I keep my mouth shut?
Well, it's no surprise to moderators that I sympathize with Xenu after having been in the same boat not too long ago with a miserable ratio. It took me almost 4 years to get power user status! hahahahahaMy advice: stop downloading for a while and get your porn from someplace else. Downloading is what hits you a lot. Download only stuff you really NEED and find nowhere else. More quality, less quantity. And avoid DVD-Rs. You cannot afford them.
Uploading: Don't push out new uploads too quickly. I made that mistake. As soon as an upload was finished I prepared the next one. Hoping for bonus points which most of the time don't come.
I now let my new uploads seed for 24 hours or more until the number of leechers drops and the upload speed goes very low. That often gives me a ratio of 5.0 and better on that upload. A 1GB video has seeded after 24 hours more than 5GB which I have in the bank for sure. I would need about 350 bonus points to get the same amount of GB credits. And to get these is not easy
Uwe's strategy to get torrents into phase 4 is not very practical for me because of limited space on the uploading machine. Once seeding is over I have to move the file away to make room for other material. And keeping track of what I had uploaded months ago and getting the file back is just not possible. I still have a day job (which allows me the occasional masturbatory break though). :blink:
After looking at the number of actually active members (right now 397 online) I think it would be a good idea to recruit more members. 397 worldwide is not a lot! Let's just assume it would be possible to raise that number to 2,000 at any given time. That would make things much more interesting (more leechers, maybe more points for uploaders).
But please don't ask me how we can get more active members. I have no idea. I am the only one I know personally who really loves porn! Well, maybe my friend Billy… but he would soon drop off again because I'd never upload anything and his bad ratio would get him kicked out quickly. I digress... -
@Uwe:
… maybe the real reason is simply the extra work it would entail for the staff to create such a bonus?
if that is the case i understand totally- you have a lot to do already for such few people. and i know even fewer do the majority of it, since i look at the staff link to gauge how long my torrents might have to wait to be posted finally. …
That is the very reason. We got only one Administrator part time working on changes to the site and tracker. Moderators do not have access to it (and that is better). There are things on the to do list since I am Moderator. That is why I spoke about being "limited" or mgr in many posts say he agrees but we shall not keep our breath until changes happen
because he can't give any forecast of an implementation.Thank you Uwe. Damn, that wasn't so hard. lol
All the other "reasons" did not make sense. THAT does.
P.S. (to ballard1: who is that in the avatar? woof!) -
P.S. (to ballard1: who is that in the avatar? woof!)
It's not me but he looks a lot like me. A friend sent me the pic and wrote: "Hey, since when do you post your naked pics on the net?"
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So I thought I might as well use it as my avatar. No idea who the guy is. My twin… separated at birth? Mom swears she only had one boy! -
… All the other "reasons" did not make sense. THAT does. ...
I don't remember to have given "reasons" why the system is like it is, but only different views to your argumentation too change it, respectively "corrections" where they were simply wrong. That does not want to mean that I am against more rewarding of original torrent posters, in opposite.
Nevertheless, the way you ask for it, makes me wonder why it must be up to the system to be changed for that, when a simple behaviour change of downloader granting better seed bonus points could achieve the same. It is not the low share ratio or lack of spare Seed Bonus Points preventing from it. Many members got good share ratio beyond multiples of 1.000 together with thousands of Seed Bonus Points unused.
Perhaps it must be made more clear that the average share ratio without Seed Bonus effect is 1.000 and values closely around it are already to be considered as good to excellent.
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One thing I would like to clarify in this thread is that Mods are not "given" free seed bonus points or any free seeded traffic to boost our ratio. The ratio and seed bonus points you see are all "earned". Either through seeding or as gifts from thankful members who like our uploads.
Uploading torrents is something I like to see and I encourage it from as many members as possible. That's why I have my Firsttime Uploaders Program. I also give SBP in two forum games which are The Uploader Triva Game and Alphabetical Word Game. And I give SBP to every torrent I snatch from the tracker.
What I do not like to see is uploaders who expect generous treatment when they in 3 years have earned hundreds of SBPs, given only 30SBPs away after downloading 50 torrents since 6-5-2011 and trading them in 13 times for 5GB of seeded traffic for themselves. I try to be civil but this gimmie, gimmie, gimmie is getting old.
In my experience, the best way to get SBP is to post something "rare" or something alot of users want. Search the torrents and order them by SBP and you'll see what I mean. It may not be content you even like but if you can get it and share it, others will usually reward you.
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What I do not like to see is uploaders who expect generous treatment when they in 3 years have earned hundreds of SBPs, given only 30SBPs away after downloading 50 torrents since 6-5-2011 and trading them in 13 times for 5GB of seeded traffic for themselves. I try to be civil but this gimmie, gimmie, gimmie is getting old.
Brandon,
I know that this was directed at me. You're right. The shoe fits.
But I think I tried to explain this before. For getting my ratio up I needed to exchange the points because uploading and seeding alone didn't do the trick.
At least I can proudly say that I don't beg for points. I've done it maybe five times in almost 300 files I have uploaded.
If a member wants to give BSP I am grateful, if not it's fine too. I don't expect anything.
Now that I got my ratio up to a healthier level I will be more generous. Promise. I just had to balance my priorities while I was working on the low ratio problem. -
I know that this was directed at me.
It was not directed at you at all. In fact I just gave you some reputation points with the blue heart to say that you bring a certain balance to the forum topics. I should have probably not posted that comment at all.
Thank you for helping keep our forum discussions alive and thank you for being open minded enough to see all points of view. A lesson that I could well learn from you. ;D
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