@dc2009 said in One star spammer!:

@bi4smooth said in One star spammer!:

Forgive me - but, do any of you actually care about the "star" ratings on a torrent before you download it?

Honestly, I never really look at, much less give weight to, the "star" ratings!

That's just me tho...

Well I did when I first got on this site. Was wondering why all mature older bear stuff got 1 star ratings and no comments. So since i was new here I didnt feel like wasting ratio on something that might have been real bad (damaged files, super grainy og just real poor quality) Then a nice experienced user sent me a message saying that it was just a troll giving those bad ratings and the rating system is bullshit. That was 4 years ago and the troll is still going strong lol. Another thing is that its just disrespectful to all the uploaders spending time on sharing stuff with others for free.

IMHO (and it's jut my personal opinion), PORN is a deeply personal thing... Unless there was a way to see how other INDIVIDUAL USERS rated torrents, ANY rating system is "suspect"...

Some people HATE the skinny little twinks I ADORE!
Some people LOVE the tatted and pierced whores that I HATE! (intentionally hyperbolic there... to make a point!)

We all have unique tastes! When I first started here, the forum and the comments of bareback torrents were FULL of people objecting to them outright! Blah blah blah...

Around that same time, there was a considerable push to add "circumcised" as a category (actually, I think the idea was to make UN-circumcised a category, as a vocal minority wanted to be "protected" from downloading "offensive" torrents with uncut dicks in them!)

The point is: we all have our likes and dislikes... and the "rating" system - ANY RATING SYSTEM that is site-wide and anonymous - is flawed...

Oh I understand that we are all different. The reason why I reacted to this is that i doubt this has anything to do with taste as this guy systematically hit every single new torrent in these categories. The day I see a new upload that hasn't got 1 star it's pretty obvious that the uploader of that one must be the troll haha. Maybe joker will make a change or maybe not. Still enjoyable to be on this site no doubt

@bi4smooth said in One star spammer!:

Forgive me - but, do any of you actually care about the "star" ratings on a torrent before you download it?

Honestly, I never really look at, much less give weight to, the "star" ratings!

That's just me tho...

Well I did when I first got on this site. Was wondering why all mature older bear stuff got 1 star ratings and no comments. So since i was new here I didnt feel like wasting ratio on something that might have been real bad (damaged files, super grainy og just real poor quality) Then a nice experienced user sent me a message saying that it was just a troll giving those bad ratings and the rating system is bullshit. That was 4 years ago and the troll is still going strong lol. Another thing is that its just disrespectful to all the uploaders spending time on sharing stuff with others for free.

IMHO (and it's jut my personal opinion), PORN is a deeply personal thing... Unless there was a way to see how other INDIVIDUAL USERS rated torrents, ANY rating system is "suspect"...

Some people HATE the skinny little twinks I ADORE!
Some people LOVE the tatted and pierced whores that I HATE! (intentionally hyperbolic there... to make a point!)

We all have unique tastes! When I first started here, the forum and the comments of bareback torrents were FULL of people objecting to them outright! Blah blah blah...

Around that same time, there was a considerable push to add "circumcised" as a category (actually, I think the idea was to make UN-circumcised a category, as a vocal minority wanted to be "protected" from downloading "offensive" torrents with uncut dicks in them!)

The point is: we all have our likes and dislikes... and the "rating" system - ANY RATING SYSTEM that is site-wide and anonymous - is flawed...

Forgive me - but, do any of you actually care about the "star" ratings on a torrent before you download it?

Honestly, I never really look at, much less give weight to, the "star" ratings!

That's just me tho...

Well I did when I first got on this site. Was wondering why all mature older bear stuff got 1 star ratings and no comments. So since i was new here I didnt feel like wasting ratio on something that might have been real bad (damaged files, super grainy og just real poor quality) Then a nice experienced user sent me a message saying that it was just a troll giving those bad ratings and the rating system is bullshit. That was 4 years ago and the troll is still going strong lol. Another thing is that its just disrespectful to all the uploaders spending time on sharing stuff with others for free.

Honestly, I never really look at, much less give weight to, the "star" ratings!

That's just me tho...

Going back to the one-star rating fanatic, I don't know what to say. If you look at the grand scheme of things, I think we all know how the whole movie will unfold, you know? So, what are they expecting? A sock-puppet show?

It seems the one star poster doesn't like mature and bears.

I questioned this on a torrent today as well.

I know I ask about this last year and was told a fix was in the works. I don't think they need to do away with the ratings but if you are going to leave one I feel you should have to say why you are leaving it.

Meanwhile, let's also keep our focus on implementing a solution to the voting system.  It seems that almost everyone's in agreement on the need for change and the method, so with luck, we will soon hear from raph or another senior member about how this can go forward.    :cool2:

Seriously though.. there is a possible reason why that got a 1 star rating.  There are many people who keep re-uploading the videos of Reno Gold and Xleox (Leo Stuke).  These compilations are often over 20 GB in size.  What I do, is adjust the download directory in Utorrent to download all my Reno Gold videos to ONE directory (called Reno Gold) and that results in saving me from downloading 3/4 of the duplicate files.  Sometimes the files have random computer generated names - which is quite annoying.

Reno Gold is quite gay.. and extremely talented, and extremely good looking.  My only complaint is - WHEN is he going to start FUCKING on camera?  He's done everything else BUT fuck.  He has cum into his OWN mouth several times.  He's eaten guy's asses with a passion.  He sucks cock like a champion. He takes toys up his ass with gusto.  He rubs his cock down ass cracks with finesse.  Let's get FUCKING!

I love challenges sometimes, though

The latter could lead to a lot of "revenge scoring," or as pointed out, perhaps even "scoring inflation."  So I will stay with advocating a simple, anonymous star system that only allows a vote upon completion of a torrent.

• Posting Presentation (Buzzwords, poor/misleading description, lack of images)

• Seeding/Download speed (seeders that have limited upload speed and/or window seem to get these)

• Duplication, Possible Malware,

• File-naming/Organization

• Content Category/Actor/Studio (I like X, I won't watch anything with Y, etc.)

• Content Work (I like that particular scene)

• File (particular encoding, artfact, etc)

I do agree that the proposed solution (requiring download to rate) would mostly address the concerns.

Previously I have nearly downloaded malware/suspicious files and only stopped and looked closer due to a one-star review.

I realize it is not particularly more burdensome to report cases like these (two-clicks and some typing instead of one-click),
and staff are very quick in removing these (but they are human, limited in number and unpaid), but you would still have to also type a comment on the post itself to make your concerns visible.

However, I would at least raise the concern that any additional burden would also reduce this kind of behavior that is helpful to the community; is there a way to make this process (reporting and making your concerns visible) less burdensome (fewer steps)?

While bcc's suggestion regarding the requirement of a comment for one-star sounds good, use of required text-fields to interrupt behavior without accountability usually just leads to gibberish, ".", or other null comments.

Regarding visibility/reputation as a solution – I am not sure how much reputation matters to those committing these offences, aside from situation where they might have to ask for leniency or make requests for torrents/re-seeds.

I do agree that we need a way prevent anyone who has not downloaded the torrent to 100% from voting on it.

I'll put a request in the staff section for this since Joker needs to do this.

It's definitely possible to keep one function locked until at least one (or X out of X) connection goes from leecher to seeder. Also possible to allow only 5-Star ratings before completion. PHP (among other languages) are easy for some to write if they are familiar with the current setup and environment.

Another possible would be to require text in a box when rating a torrent with one or two stars, with note that the opinion will be published with their username. In that event only true opinions will be given. If one were to give a lot of torrents one stars with revealed usernames, well Lucy gots some 'splanin to do as to why they are here if they don't like even one friggin' torrent going on here.

Time and resources to do so? That's an entirely different ask.

If it's just two or three people doing the one-pointers, that's a bit of work for a small reward.

On the other side, reports of every event of one-point-before-torrent-finishes indeed would be a lot of oppressive mail to handle.

If a banner or front page warning does not work "Low star ratings on uncompleted torrents may result in suspension or a ban" or if it will take too much work to ferret out or write php against such activity, this may go on the back burner until it can't.

Edit to add another possible of populating ratings with member names (by altering a snippet of code already being used) graphically:

In this example, if stef1118 shows up on too many torrents as always giving one star, maybe stef can be asked why by Staff after being reported. There's plenty of us that pay attention to different types of details.

This could also cause more to only give 5 stars, and we'll end up with a lot of 5-star crap (not the Scat category type, sorry).

This example could cause animosity (or other problems) towards each other, however, if not implemented perfectly in an imperfect world (which may be impossible given all our unique personalities). It's possible that any change can do that as well. It won't be an easy decision for Staff or the Owner, should they decide to address or act.

Of course, you might be able to see which members are abusing the system, and in that case, they could be warned or something stronger.

In any event, I still would like to see a system where the star ratings are available only to those who have actually downloaded the particular file(s), as the Original Poster suggested.

Are there other members (in addition to dc2009, above) who have noted these "poisoned one stars" and think it's worth further discussion and possible change, as described above?

@mirko69:

one star spammer!

Please consider to give the right to rating a torrent, only for those who actually completed the torrent…

BTW :
11. Any information, e.g. the title, categories, pictures and description must correctly represent the content of the files shared with the torrent and avoid misleading members about the content. This applies as well to additions, votes or comments made by other members than the original uploader. In doubt, rather than providing wrong information, omit it.
At least one good quality picture is mandatory for the torrent presentation.
Torrents in the Themed Movie and TV / Episodes categories need to indicate the audio language(s) and, if present, the subtitle language(s), including if optional, forced or hardcoded in the video.
Descriptions in the title such as "Hot!", "Must See!", "Best Ever!", "New" or "Latest" are unacceptable. The comment area is the only appropriate place to give your personal opinion of the content or otherwise make personal requests. Include the release date, rather than "New", "Latest", etc. …
Do not plead for bonus seed points in the description area.

https://www.gaytor.rent/rules.php

Please report this kind of thing via the torrent page.

We are working on recruiting more staff to help us.

It's a childish and unhelpful way to behave, of course.

One way to stop this would be a system edit where members must wait until an entire download is completed, before that particular star rating system becomes "unlocked" and available to them.

Would such a change be helpful if honest ratings are the goal?  My thinking leans toward "Yes."

Some may claim a right to vote if they have already seen a movie or clip that they love or hate, but as they haven't seen the viewing quality of that particular upload, I think they have less standing than those who have actually downloaded.

In any event, whether this change is possible with GTRU system formatting abilities, I haven't the slightest.    :blink:

one star spammer!

Please consider to give the right to rating a torrent, only for those who actually completed the torrent…

BTW :
11. Any information, e.g. the title, categories, pictures and description must correctly represent the content of the files shared with the torrent and avoid misleading members about the content. This applies as well to additions, votes or comments made by other members than the original uploader. In doubt, rather than providing wrong information, omit it.
At least one good quality picture is mandatory for the torrent presentation.
Torrents in the Themed Movie and TV / Episodes categories need to indicate the audio language(s) and, if present, the subtitle language(s), including if optional, forced or hardcoded in the video.
Descriptions in the title such as "Hot!", "Must See!", "Best Ever!", "New" or "Latest" are unacceptable. The comment area is the only appropriate place to give your personal opinion of the content or otherwise make personal requests. Include the release date, rather than "New", "Latest", etc. …
Do not plead for bonus seed points in the description area.

https://www.gaytor.rent/rules.php

Might be someone that really loves him and thinks it should be paid access only, or someone that really does not like him, or jealous, or having a bad day, or something else?

At least the ratings do not affect anything else for the most part, unless there's something that is being missed.