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    Are religious people more moral?

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    • raphjdR Offline
      raphjd Forum Administrator
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      Is it really moral to be "good" simply because you are afraid of your sky daddy and getting punished?

      Lot's of believers use their religion to justify being evil to everyone else.

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        anyuh
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        no, definitely not.

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          vaylon 0
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          Most everyone in both my mom's side of the family and my dad's side are into the business of religion. I can definitely say NO they are not more moral. Some followers try to be, but the heads of churches are usually the most corrupt and immoral people you could ever meet.
          I think all people try to be moral to some degree based on their own or societies value system.
          Someone from the middle east would be highly immoral if they were put into the USA. Same goes in reverse.

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            nickys1177
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            not all are like that..different folks different strokes..just respect them

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              Zeitgeist
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              Religion does not correlate with morality, and vice-versa.

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                BEAUJONES
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                @cteavin:

                @flozen:

                @cteavin:

                I think this title question would be better written as either "Are religious people better able to exist in our modern science-oriented society?" or "Are religious people more socially responsible than non-believers?". Maybe even, "Are religious people able to follow judicial law and social moors better than the non-religious?".

                That's all great food for thought.  As far as the part i boldfaced, wouldn't religious people be less likely to do the "best" job in following judicial law and social moors, as they would claim spiritual beliefs take precedence when there's a conflict?  Isn't that what occurred with the horrible anti-gay postal clerk, Kim Davis?

                A bit of the end-game in that kerfuffle:
                https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/07/21/kim-davis-kentucky-hook-legal-fees-gay-marriage-fight/500408001/

                I would think so.

                I see several possible outcomes:

                • Religious people who obey secular laws over religious ones meaning they aren't really religious but in name/identity. (New Yorkers, Azerbaijani .)

                • Religious people who thwart judicial/secular laws in favor of religion (Kim Davis, Cults, Saudi Arabia, Iran).

                • People who claim to be religious and bend with the wind (most of humanity).

                • Non-religious people who take to a secular cause with religious fervor to force upon others their ideas (SJWs, Civil Rights Movement, Iconoclasts).

                • Non-religious people who flow rudderless and create their own spiritual replacements (modern Wiccans, African-American this, White-Nationalist that).

                From what I see most people don't really believe in the Gods or religions they claim to, at least not the big three in the modern West. In and around Asia and the Middle East things get more complicated. But to the type you bolded, I think the majority of Western people can and do try to follow secular law first and as a whole we do a pretty good job. Do you see something different?

                I go by this passage when it comes to law and authority of government.

                Romans 13:1-3 “Be a good citizen. All governments are under God. Insofar as there is peace and order, it’s God’s order. So live responsibly as a citizen. If you’re irresponsible to the state, then you’re irresponsible with God, and God will hold you responsible. Duly constituted authorities are only a threat if you’re trying to get by with something. Decent citizens should have nothing to fear.” (The Message)

                Also, being a Christian doesn't make one moral or amoral. One's actions define that in my opinion.

                What's with today, today?

                At the of the journey, I don't want to be known for what I have or what I don't or what I've accomplished. I will be proud if people say, "He was kind. He gave people grace and compassion. He held space for those who needed it and he experienced a lot of people and places. Love was his mission. He was a whore with a wicked sense of humor, and his laugh shook the world.

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                  gayaznboi22
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                  Let's face it, we are a world founded by the belief in gods and deities.  All cultures have roots starting in some form or another from deities; Christianity is one of the well-known religions in terms of founding.  That would probably be why Atheists are looked down on more; they are the minority in terms of an entire world who have taken their pick of religious belief.

                  As to whether or not religious people are more moral, I highly doubt it.  If they were, then even the most devout and right-winged Christian wouldn't choose to abandon their child the moment they admit to being gay or are caught conducting "gay" sexual activities.  Morality would dictate that a parent look after their children and protect them from harm; banishing a gay child from the family or forcibly having their mindset changed through conversion therapy goes against basic morality.

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                    A Former User
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                    Life is so short while Love can be so deep. It hurts to think that once there is Death, there is Nothing - not our partners, not our children, not our friends, not our relatives, not even ourselves.

                    Religion gives one a chance to feel or believe that there is something after Death. If we did not fear Death, then the concept of Religion would not have been born.

                    Is it moral to believe in Religion? Not when it leads one to act and live differently to the potential detriment of not only others, but to oneself as well.

                    Religious people are not more moral, as otherwise they could potentially have lived more free to be themselves, be more compassionate, and achieve more in every aspect of Life.

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                    • Shami94S Offline
                      Shami94
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                      In my experience, religious people are on average less moral. Especially Christians.

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                        semurg30
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                        No. I had a religious straight married buddy at work who always thought he was superior to everyone.

                        Years later I found out from a friend he got caught with bestiality porn so his wife left him.

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                          lololulu19
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                          I have found that religious people are LESS moral.. because they tend to be HYPOCRITES!

                          For instance.. you have two men..
                          both of them get drunk..
                          one of them is a construction worker wearing a "Drink Budweiser" shirt,
                          the other is a priest who preaches that getting drunk is a sin

                          which one is behaving less moral?

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