Gotham: Anyone watching? Season 4 starts tonight and I'd love to talk about it

[nista1]

I completely agree it is strange Alfred somehow being OK with a kid going around fighting criminals :blink: and Bruce getting so good at fighting in a short period of time. It is a comic book thing but could they make it real  :crazy2: (the fast martial arts thing I mean)
I hope they show more Ra's and too bad Ivy isn't on sooner.
And I agree with The Defenders and The Hand. Although I really like the show - even Danny Rand ;D

[cteavin]

@nista1:

Although I really like the show - even Danny Rand ;D

:afraid2:     :fight:     :bithfight:

[nista1]

Hahaha. He is a lost boy. If he were raised by wolves and couldn't speak it would be OK. He spent most of his years indoctrinated by monks for a sacred mission. So I kind of get his behavior. It is stretched but he is an idealist with a single purpose. Don't hate me  :sorry: and the actor is cute so that is a plus
Hopefully something similar will happen to Bruce with Ra's and that would explain his martial arts abilities

[Hookum]

I think this might be my favorite season, and I have no problem figuring out why:  Jim Gordon and the GCPD are taking a back seat to Bruce Wayne's ascension.

I loved that Bruce started learning about acting and disguises.  That being said, "Bruce the Brat" at Penguin's auction was absolutely cringe-worthy.  I had to pause repeatedly so that I could take some time to shiver uncomfortably.

I was terribly amused by Bruce's "LET HIM!! in response to Alfred's concern that Ra's would come for the knife.  Considering the utterly laughable security at Wayne Manor, and how EVERYONE waltzes in and takes whatever they want, Bruce might want to use some of that auction money to bid on a fuckin' clue!  And since no intruder leaves without beating the shit out of Alfred first, Alfred should've gone to that auction with some copies of his résumé.  Oops, I meant to say: Copies of his CV. 

I thought he'd gotten much more fit in the three-month break. You have to cut him a bit of slack because he's still growing, but he cut a fine silhouette.

Sorry, but I spent the entire episode staring intently at that kid's body :pope:  (mind out of the gutter, people) and I honestly don't think he's putting any effort into looking the part.  Just my opinion.  I'll change it whenever Bruce's head doesn't look too large for his frame.  I don't mean to sound cruel.  David certainly looks a hell of a lot better than I do.  But the difference is: I'm not accepting money to portray Batman.

[cteavin]

@Hookum:

I loved that Bruce started learning about acting and disguises.  That being said, "Bruce the Brat" at Penguin's auction was absolutely cringe-worthy.  I had to pause repeatedly so that I could take some time to shiver uncomfortably.

I thought he'd gotten much more fit in the three-month break. You have to cut him a bit of slack because he's still growing, but he cut a fine silhouette.

I'll change it whenever Bruce's head doesn't look too large for his frame.  I don't mean to sound cruel.  David certainly looks a hell of a lot better than I do.  But the difference is: I'm not accepting money to portray Batman.

I'm part of a Gotham community on Reddit and a few on YouTube and you're the first and only person I've heard criticize the auction scene which everyone has, literally, said was the best part of the show so far. I agree. I laughed – I loved it.

I might have said this before but this is the first time a live-action version of the Batman has ever fleshed out the Bruce Wayne character/persona. We're watching it unfold in real time. I feel they're doing a fantastic job in developing him.

As to Bruce's body, what are you expecting?  :bithfight: He's a teenager. His body is being bitchslapped this very moment by puberty.  :nutki: If his head is too big it's because the plates in his head are shifting.  :crazy2:

What do you think they're going to do with Riddler? I was a little disappointed they killed his fan.

Oh, and you're right about Jim. Less Jim, please. Have you noticed he's become the thing he most hated about the GCPD when first arrived in Gotham? In the pockets of the mob. What an asshole. I really hate him. Still, I'm hoping they honor the Damien storyline by having Falcon's daughter get pregnant by him. She would be the Talia to his Batman and we'd finally get Jim a child.

[Hookum]

I'm part of a Gotham community on Reddit and a few on YouTube and you're the first and only person I've heard criticize the auction scene which everyone has, literally, said was the best part of the show so far. I agree. I laughed – I loved it.

I should've been more specific.  I only hated the opening part where he was making a complete ass of himself with regards to the painting, followed by his excruciating greeting to the Penguin and the painful dialog that follows.  After Barbara shows up, however, everything instantly gets better, and it does indeed become the best part of the show.  Bruce's catty remark to Barbara (….for someone like YOU!) was delicious, and I delighted in the wonderfully dramatic way that Oswald ran to the podium and completely fucked up Barbara's plans.  SUCH a nasty, vicious queen thing to do, brilliantly depicted by a homosexual actor portraying a homosexual character.

As to Bruce's body, what are you expecting?

I'd post pictures of some 16 year-old bodybuilders, but I think I'd get banned.

What do you think they're going to do with Riddler? I was a little disappointed they killed his fan.

The Riddler's cunning intellect is his best feature.  Without it, he's…....well, let me put it this way: "What is nowhere, but everywhere, except where something else is?"  They need to fix him, FAST!

Oh, and you're right about Jim. Less Jim, please

Hi.  I know I killed your son and all, but I really need yet another favor from you?!?  If they're going to give Jim balls that big, they should at least allow us to see them.

[nista1]

I liked the auction scenes. Bruce was a real brat. And him and Barbara were hilarious. More Bruce and Barb  :cheers:
It does seem Falcone is a solution for every problem Jim has which isn't that bad - I like Falcone - he is old gangster cool.
His daughter seems like a great character. Maybe she will bring some eye candy from her old show.
And Ra's and Barbara I like them working together
@cteavin You were right-she was brought back by the Lazarus pit :clap2:

[cteavin]

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He was born on a Monday AND in a swamp! (I'm so happy.) Since Ra's brought magic into Gotham (he mentioned it last week) then all they need to do in reveal that there was an ol' voodoo spot 'round there and they've got the perfect blend on Indian Hill camp and campy magic.

Did you not love the of Mice & Men pairing of Nygma and Solomon?

Do you think Lee is one of the few who were permanently changed by the virus?

Is Babs pregnant with Ra's spirit baby – how are they bringing him back because we know he's not dead, dead -- no one dies in Gotham for good (unless they're blown up).

Why are they rehashing the plot line from Season One where Fish has that young girl fall in love with her making the young girl remind Falcon of his mother? There must be a reason for doing this.

And Dr. Pyg is coming for Halloween!  :cheers: :clap2: :hot2: :ok2:

[Frederick]

@cteavin:

I love all the comic book TV shows. I often theory craft with friends over on reddit but it'd be awesome to make some friends here to talk to about it, like, how incredibly sexy The Riddler is (nerdy, thin and pale does it for me but Alfred could eat crackers in my bed).

Or how about how amazing The Penguin is?

Wanna be besties with Selina?

Thoughts on where the season is going?

If this takes off it'd be fun to check in each week and talk all things Gotham.

Putting aside that openly gay Robin Lord Taylor (Penguin) and closet gay Corey Michael Smith (Riddler) are both liberal moonbats - especially Smith.. there are other major problems with "Gotham".
The show is basically an ongoing soap opera.. with flaws.  They keep bringing in new characters and plotlines..  that are never developed or completed.  They wind up killing off the characters and plots.. and bringing them back to life, and re-hashing plots.  I could spend hours giving examples, but if you have seen the show… you know.

That shows ratings have gone steadily down.. and are now the lowest ever.  The blogs about the show say they want to keep the show going so it can be sold in syndication.  They are wrong.  Only TV shows where each episode can stand on it's own work in syndication.  Any "soap opera" style show that is continually growing only make sense if shown sequentially without skipping around.

To be blunt.. the show is loaded with potential.. that never goes anywhere.  I try to watch it, but it puts me to sleep now.

[cteavin]

@Frederick:

ith (Riddler) are both liberal moonbats - especially Smith.. there are other major problems with "Gotham".
The show is basically an ongoing soap opera.. with flaws.  They keep bringing in new characters and plotlines..  that are never developed or completed.  They wind up killing off the characters and plots.. and bringing them back to life, and re-hashing plots.  I could spend hours giving examples, but if you have seen the show… you know.

That shows ratings have gone steadily down.. and are now the lowest ever.  The blogs about the show say they want to keep the show going so it can be sold in syndication.  They are wrong.   Only TV shows where each episode can stand on it's own work in syndication.   Any "soap opera" style show that is continually growing only make sense if shown sequentially without skipping around.

To be blunt.. the show is loaded with potential.. that never goes anywhere.  I try to watch it, but it puts me to sleep now.

Not sure what your watching but your thinking is old, very old.

Ratings for network TV are down for all shows. Do a yearly comparison for any and all network shows to see each one is losing audience share. Why? Because now we can record TV shows, catch them later on Netflix or Hulu, binge them, torrent them, stream them. TV production companies have to look at several metrics to decide what is failing/succeeding now. One thing is for sure, critical response to Gotham has only gotten better over time. You're the first person I've seen online who's not into this new season.

Syndication, like ratings, has changed. Traditional syndication already works in serial format. The new "syndication" is on-demand streaming and rentals – and Gotham already hit their 100th episode mark, so they're all set.

Gotham will most likely get a new season. They've put a lot into developing these characters. The show really does feel like a comic book -- it's fantastic. (I'm not happy with dark Bruce atm, but it's a necessary step.)