CNN shifts tactics after last weeks decimating bombshells

pppucci

"Ahh, poor poor white people" refers to the 9 blacks you beat and stole that white guy's car.

My has debunked this one too. First, the quote dates to November 16,2016, following an interview of Trump when he told Trump supporters who were beating up minorities to "cut it out." The person who spoke your famous words was Symone Sanders, a black political commentator who was press secretary for Bernie.

I got the transcripts. There was a lot of crosstalk, and I thinks she was reponding to something Carl said that was not transcribed.

CARL HIGBIE, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Well, I heard about the last 30 seconds of it. I will say, look, Donald Trump but I would say where was Obama when people were smashing neighborhoods after all the riots? He didn't necessarily take a firm stance on getting people to stop.

I think what happens now is, look, people should not riot and cause violence on either side of the aisle regarding the issue. I think it's stupid for people to come out and say racist things and whatever power for Trump. But they shouldn't do it on either side. I think there should be a real serious ratcheting down of the law, and say stop doing violence upon other people and neighborhoods.

(CROSSTALK)

SANDERS: Hate crimes – I'm sorry, Kate. Hate crimes and protesting are not the same things. We cannot normalize this.

Carl, a hate crime is a crime that is committed against somebody because of their religion, because of what they look like, because of their sexual orientation. That's not the same thing as protesting.

BOLDUAN: You're not -- I don't think Carl is disputing that.

SANDERS: Well, he should make it very clear because what I heard is both, people on both sides should cut it all out. A hate crime is not the same thing as protesting. We have to be very deliberate about that.

BOLDUAN: What do you say to the people who dragged a poor white guy out of a car and beat him --

(CROSSTALK)

SANDERS: Oh, my goodness. Poor white people. Please. Stop. Stop it, Carl. What I say to people that protest is first of all, apparently, there's -- (CROSSTALK)

HIGBIE: That's not protesting. Dragging somebody out of their car and beating them -

(CROSSTALK)

SANDERS: Pardon me. There's never been a successful form of protest.

What I'm saying is I'm calling for people to be peaceful. I think protesting is a right. It is what this country was founded on. We got this country via protest but it's never OK to use violence. We can't keep calling for people to be peaceful --

(CROSSTALK)

HIBEE: You and I agree on that. "

As you can see they both agreed that peaceful protest was OK. I think her poor white people remark was to compare a single incident on whites compared to the multiple hate crimes committed against blacks. I don't agree. However SHE IS JUST A COMMENTATOR. While she is employed by the network, her views are her own and don't represent the management. Are we to hold Fox news responsible for all the comments made on that network.?
Raphjd--you need to let this one go too.

You can watch the full clip here:

Youtube Video

pppucci

@raphjd:

"It ain't no hate crime" was said about the Chicago kidnapping, after the kidnappers admitted it was a hate crime.

Again, spoken by Symone Sanders on January 5, 2017. She seems particularly obsessed with differentiating politically driven hate crimes from racially motivated hate crimes and only considers the latter legitimately labelled as such. In this case, however, the attackers were equally shouting "Fuck Trump" as "Fuck you white boy. But again, she is a political commentator.. CNN is actually pretty good at having a spectrum of political commentators.
I suspect you think CNN is liberal -leaning (and I agree) but not fake news. But the egregious "offenses" you cite do not support that argument.

Frederick

@pppucci:

@raphjd:

"It ain't no hate crime" was said about the Chicago kidnapping, after the kidnappers admitted it was a hate crime.

Again, spoken by Symone Sanders on January 5, 2017. She seems particularly obsessed with differentiating politically driven hate crimes from racialliall motivated hate crimes and only considers the latter legitimately labelled as such. In this case, however, the attackers were equally shouting "Fuck Trump" as "Fuck you white boy. Buta again, she is a political commentator.. CNN is actually pretty good at having a spectrum of political commentators.
I suspect you think CNN is liberal -leaning (and I agree) but not fake news. But the egregious "offenses" you cite do not support that argument.

CNN is fake news, and is likely to go belly up in a few years.

raphjd

CNN routinely has Symone Sanders on. She's clearly on contract. She doesn't think blacks can do any wrong and if they do, blame the crackers.

Don "sourpuss" Lemon also claimed that the Chicago kidnapping was NOT a hate crime.

CNN is shit. 20 years ago they had global respect, now they are little more than the DNC's "news" outlet.

pppucci

@raphjd:

CNN routinely has Symone Sanders on. She's clearly on contract. She doesn't think blacks can do any wrong and if they do, blame the crackers.

Don "sourpuss" Lemon also claimed that the Chicago kidnapping was NOT a hate crime.

CNN is shit. 20 years ago they had global respect, now they are little more than the DNC's "news" outlet.

And they also have Paris Denard, Jason Miller, Jeffry Lord, Jay Sakalow, The like to have extreme liberals and extreme conservatives because a discussion among moderates would be boring.
You either have selective hearing, or are basing your impression of the network on YouTube clips that only show one side. I think you will admit that when it comes to reporting pure news–which they often carry live and unedited--they are unbiased. The talk-show hosts like Don Lemon and Anderson Cooper are clearly liberals, but they always have commentators across the political spectrum. Whether they are under contract or not, the commentator's opinions are not necessarily those of the network.

Frederick

@pppucci:

@raphjd:

CNN routinely has Symone Sanders on. She's clearly on contract. She doesn't think blacks can do any wrong and if they do, blame the crackers.

Don "sourpuss" Lemon also claimed that the Chicago kidnapping was NOT a hate crime.

CNN is shit. 20 years ago they had global respect, now they are little more than the DNC's "news" outlet.

And they also have Paris Denard, Jason Miller, Jeffry Lord, Jay Sakalow, The like to have extreme liberals and extreme conservatives because a discussion among moderates would be boring.
You either have selective hearing, or are basing your impression of the network on YouTube clips that only show one side. I think you will admit that when it comes to reporting pure news–which they often carry live and unedited--they are unbiased. The talk-show hosts like Don Lemon and Anderson Cooper are clearly liberals, but they always have commentators across the political spectrum. Whether they are under contract or not, the commentator's opinions are not necessarily those of the network.

The core of CNN's problems could be eliminated just by eliminating Don Lemon. Anderson Cooper manages to be liberal without being antagonistic. CNN won't touch Don Lemon though.. because he is their "token". If I were black, I would not want Don Lemon representing me. I don't think Don Lemon considers himself to be black.

pppucci

@Frederick:

The core of CNN's problems could be eliminated just by eliminating Don Lemon. Anderson Cooper manages to be liberal without being antagonistic.

Then tune him out, but don't condemn the whole network as fake news.

raphjd

Didn't Don Lemon shut down a segment because a black guest didn't agree with the leftist agenda?

Don Lemon is clearly a racist, like his cohort Symone Sanders.

Chris Cuomo and his female co-host admitted (in 2014) that the media was doing everything they possibly could to ensure Hillary would win in 2016.

Then tune him out, but don't condemn the whole network as fake news.

As long as CNN keeps Sourpuss on, the whole network is scum.

It would be like Fox hiring David Duke and making him a major focus of the network.

pppucci

@raphjd:

Chris Cuomo and his female co-host admitted (in 2014) that the media was doing everything they possibly could to ensure Hillary would win in 2016.

I can't let you get away with this again. Once you get an idea in your head, it takes a buldozer to dislodge it. Here is the transcript of your infamous Chris Cuomo quote:
Hillary was starting a tour promoting her book "Hard Choices" Many thought she was just getting her face out there to prepare to run for the NOMINATION. Cuomo was stating that she got a lot of free publicity for a potential campaign, so she better well start one. Here is the transcript:
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PAMELA BROWN, CNN ANCHOR: As you probably know right now, it's finally out, that, of course, Hillary Clinton's latest book "Hard Choices." For many folks in New York, it didn't seem to be a tough decision to get in line for a chance to get a fresh copy and have it signed by the author herself. Of course, the very fact that Hillary Clinton is the author will no doubt push book sales. But the media is playing a big part in both her book promotion and her potential campaign.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

BROOKE BALDWIN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: It's exciting.

CHRIS CUOMO, CNN CO-HOST, NEW DAY: We'll see.

We couldn't help her any more than we have.

BALDWIN: I know.

CUOMO: She's got a free ride so far from the media. We're the biggest ones promoting her campaign, so it better happen.

The "we" he was referring to was the media in general, not CNN. And he said nothing about her winning in 2016 or even securing the nomination. He was just saying she got a lot of free publicity for a potential bid for the nomination.

pppucci

@raphjd:

As long as CNN keeps Sourpuss on, the whole network is scum.

It would be like Fox hiring David Duke and making him a major focus of the network.

The last time I brought David Duke into a discussion you criticized me for hyperbole. There is no comparison between the two. Now I have some fact-checking to do.
UPDATE: Done with my fact checking about Don Lemon shutting down a black commentator. You can watch it here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7sTXXi_by4
Also see my comments about it in the Fake News thread.