This is not specifically targeted at others in this thread, but I am speaking generally. I applaud the idea of respectful dialogue. Just that dialogue may naturally divert into places that some are uncomfortable with.

@aadam101:

This thread has me so confused.  Wasn't Trump just doing the arab snake dance with the very people who fund all of the worlds Islamic terror.  He never once said the words "Islamic terrorism" either.  He is a coward.

Every US President, for about 100 years, has been licking the balls of leaders in the middle east, no matter how evil they are.

If Hillary won, she'd be licking their balls instead of Trump doing it and you guys would be praising her for it.

You're right but Trump promised to do the opposite of what all those other guys did.

This thread has me so confused.  Wasn't Trump just doing the arab snake dance with the very people who fund all of the worlds Islamic terror.  He never once said the words "Islamic terrorism" either.  He is a coward.

Every US President, for about 100 years, has been licking the balls of leaders in the middle east, no matter how evil they are.

If Hillary won, she'd be licking their balls instead of Trump doing it and you guys would be praising her for it.

This thread has me so confused.  Wasn't Trump just doing the arab snake dance with the very people who fund all of the worlds Islamic terror.  He never once said the words "Islamic terrorism" either.  He is a coward.

Ironic, when Trump used to read "The Snake" poem during the campaign trail…

Russia is extremely anti gay.  Chechnya has the death penalty for being gay.  (and Uganda, Tanzania and Sierra Leone have life imprisonment, might as well be same thing.)

Spin it how you want, but "Christians" can be just as big of anti-gay bigots as Muslims.  That is a fact and your justifications won't change that.

I'm not sure why you are being a "Christian" apologist.

Chechnya is a Muslim shit.

Russian homophobia is a legacy of Communism.

Leftists support communism and Islam.

What do you do when you hate Republicans and Muslims?

#askingforafriend

we are a minority with no political representation at all.

#askingforafriend

@raphjd:

Islam is extremely anti gay.    Name a non muslim country that has the death penalty for being gay.

Spin it how you want, but Mohamed married a 6yo and fucked her when she was 9yo.   That is a fact and your justifications won't change that.

I'm not sure why you are being a muslim apologist.

Russia is extremely anti gay.  Chechnya has the death penalty for being gay. (and Uganda, Tanzania and Sierra Leone have life imprisonment, might as well be same thing.)

Spin it how you want, but "Christians" can be just as big of anti-gay bigots as Muslims.  That is a fact and your justifications won't change that.

I'm not sure why you are being a "Christian" apologist.

According to wiki: Islam is the predominant religion in Chechnya, practised by 95% of those polled in Grozny in 2010.[83] Chechens are overwhelmingly adherents to the Shafi'i Madhhab of Sunni Islam,[84] the republic having converted to Islam between the 16th and the 19th centuries.

Uh.. not quite.   Liberals accept anybody that will result in them picking up a sector of votes and getting donations.  Liberals are much like a group of little children.. who all want daddy (the successful wealthy people) to pay for everything and give them their ice cream and clean their diapers… and if they get a boo boo to make it all better.  If they DON'T get their way, the liberals WHINE and boo hoo hoo.  Just give them a balloon and they are happy again.  They are incapable and unwilling to deal with reality.  They have no consciences and instead follow the polls.  They love to flock together in densely populated inner cities.. because misery loves company.  They prefer to live like rats all huddled together.

That reminds me of the Mouse Utopia experiment.  Yup, living in crowded boxes is bad for bothhuman and mouse.  Humans are not as wise as we think we are.

@gaypraha2:

quoting Voltaire and then talking about freedom of religion  :cheers:

Actually, as i said the quote is attributed to him, it was really invented by his biographer.
It is still a damn good quote, and shows the difference between liberals and conservatives.
Liberals accept people of any religion, ethnicity, race, sexuality, or any other characteristic as long as they can co-exist.

Conservatives simply cannot co-exist with anyone different from them.

Uh.. not quite.  Liberals accept anybody that will result in them picking up a sector of votes and getting donations.  Liberals are much like a group of little children.. who all want daddy (the successful wealthy people) to pay for everything and give them their ice cream and clean their diapers… and if they get a boo boo to make it all better.  If they DON'T get their way, the liberals WHINE and boo hoo hoo.  Just give them a balloon and they are happy again.  They are incapable and unwilling to deal with reality.  They have no consciences and instead follow the polls.  They love to flock together in densely populated inner cities.. because misery loves company.  They prefer to live like rats all huddled together.

@raphjd:

It was liberals …

None of that is even slightly true.
As I have explained to you repeatedly, you have been brainwashed by extremist partisan propaganda, which takes the actions of individuals and pretend that they represent entire groups- and you blindly fall for it, because for some reason known only to you, you have this emotional need to want to hate the people who would accept you, and love the people who would condemn you.

You only need to look at the extremists on both side.  Liberalism has far more of them, they are more violent, and more mainstream.

@raphjd:

It was liberals …

None of that is even slightly true.
As I have explained to you repeatedly, you have been brainwashed by extremist partisan propaganda, which takes the actions of individuals and pretend that they represent entire groups- and you blindly fall for it, because for some reason known only to you, you have this emotional need to want to hate the people who would accept you, and love the people who would condemn you.

You are so full of shit.

You want everyone to blame individuals when they do bad, but when they do something that might be considered good, you want everyone to worship the group.

Modern liberals are scum with no redeeming qualities.

It was liberals …

None of that is even slightly true.
As I have explained to you repeatedly, you have been brainwashed by extremist partisan propaganda, which takes the actions of individuals and pretend that they represent entire groups- and you blindly fall for it, because for some reason known only to you, you have this emotional need to want to hate the people who would accept you, and love the people who would condemn you.

my point was using Voltaire to defend freedom of religion is like using let 's see.. Marx to defend capitalism.
FYI : https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voltaire

Voltaire was an advocate of freedom of religion. He was also a critic of religion. Those two concepts are not opposed to each other.

It was liberals who set a girl's hair on fire because she exercised her free speech by wearing a Trump hat.

It was liberals that threatened violence if Ann Coulter was allowed to give a lecture.

Liberals all over the west are have/try to criminalize speech they don't like.

quoting Voltaire and then talking about freedom of religion  :cheers:

Actually, as i said the quote is attributed to him, it was really invented by his biographer.
It is still a damn good quote, and shows the difference between liberals and conservatives.
Liberals accept people of any religion, ethnicity, race, sexuality, or any other characteristic as long as they can co-exist.

Conservatives simply cannot co-exist with anyone different from them.

Conservatives pretend that liberals love islam, when like everything conservatives pretend that is irrational.

Liberals love FREEDOM. We love freedom of religion, and that includes religions we don't like. Conservatives constantly fight against the core principles this nation was founded on, and even attack concepts like diversity and coexistence which are the basis of everything that makes this nation valuable.

Every day when I open the front page of this site there is some kind of bashing of liberals as a topic in this forum on the top, a so called discussion, but nothing more than scolding,  bashing and trolling. No fucking discussion topic at all despite the rules. What is this site, some kind of Gay Alt Right site?

When you read the rules they are bias and prohibit slamming the topic starter the same way he starts a topic. You can not just butt in because your sick and tired of reading that stupid alt right propaganda on the front page and if you do, you are immediately threatened with a ban.

Is this a fucking Gay Alt Right site than I want to know, you do not even have to ban me. If not, uphold the rules or get rid of the rules. Again I'm sick an tired of those stupid rants on the front page. Day in and day out I have to thank Hitler for  stopping by in history so we finally have some big fat No No's in our society. Doesn't mean we have evolved passed that behavior and kind of thinking, but thanks to him we closed one way how to handle minorities. That other cultures and countries are not there yet (or no way near) doesn't mean that they are different in nature, we still have the same nature and if anything proves that, it's the stupid Islam/Liberal/wahtev bashers. What the fok are they fighting for, not our learned morals, not our fought liberties, just their pathetic individual life in this lifetime. Cowards and traitors and they love to go back to the pre-Hitler time, but thank God/Allah/Buddah/whatev stupid deity, they realize if they ever try that, hint to that, they are out, so that is why glancing/reading the front page I have to thank Hitler stopping by over and over again and I'm sick of it.

Stop the stupid propaganda/trolling/ranting on the front page.
Start real discussions, drop the rules, uphold the rules or come out of the closet as an Alt Right site.

I see that you are a newbie here Topio.  Up until Trump was elected, this forum was being flooded with libturd shit to such a degree as to make the forum almost like an online CNN.  DrWas, who initiated 13 libturd topics just yesterday as well as many more of his libturd replies, is still trying to do that.  Nobody complains when a libturd abuses the rules, but heaven forbid that someone with a functional brain ever bends a rule to refute the bullshit of a libturd.
It's analogous to bringing a knife to a gunfight.  Andre The Giant or the greatest knife assassin is going to lose to a 6 year old with a Tommy gun.  When I post my messages, I include solid unbiased facts, but as with filling out resumes to get a job.  The truth alone can't compete with someone who has no regard for the truth and lies.  Here is just one example of that.  Although I never have, I know other people do this.  They put on their resumes that they have college degrees that they do not have, and they include things such as fake GPA's etc.  My University, and probably most others, will not even acknowledge to anybody that a former student even ATTENDED that university unless the former student pays a $50 fee to the university and specifically tell the university to provide that information to the employer who wants it.  Not once has anybody asked me to prove what I put on my resume.  They can't check anything without my $50 and permission.  I suppose I should have lied.  I have one other thing to add to that.. which people will not believe.  At the local veterans hospital (and elsewhere), there have been doctors who got jobs in hospitals.. and worked there for years.. only to find out later that they were NOT doctors at all!  That is unbelievable.. but true!    This is the same battle going on with libturd moonbats who are so extremely biased with no foundation in truth that they will just make shit up and see if people will swallow it.  When they post their shit.. I make them suffer for posting nonsense.  You think I am being mean because I am much more effective with my comments - and my comments are much more effective, because they usually are irrefutable.  However, when someone posts a flood of 13 libturd topics in one day, I don't have the time nor the energy nor the determination to refute them all, and take a few short-cuts such as referring to them as libturd moonbats who sniff glue.    If the label fits.. it STICKS.. and they don't like it.    That reminds me of one other thing.  Children are awful in that they tease anybody who is different from themselves.  Some get horribly offended by having others point out their skin color or ethnicity.  They used to try and pick on me because of my very large head.  I have a very large head, because it contains a very large BRAIN.. and I have yet to be offended by anybody calling me whitey or a Nordic Viking, etc.  Funny how some labels stick and others don't.