In the very rare instances when I make a mistake

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This thread has gotten way  :ot: due to amicusets, so I'll bring the actual topic back in by saying this administration (the current one in the White House) is corrupt and this week was a major step in exposing the amount of corruption going on within the administration. I look forward to what's going to be revealed this upcoming week. I have a feeling we'll all be saying President Orrin G. Hatch pretty soon  :puke:

You must sniff a lot of airplane glue to be so delusional.

In the very rare instances when I make a mistake, I correct myself, point out my mistake, and don't repeat it.  I don't like to be wrong.
People like you and DrWuss don't seem to have any problem being wrong about just about everything, and never regretting it, apologizing, correcting yourselves, nothing.  The only way a person could do that is if they are.. as I said.. DELUSIONAL.  You believe your own garbage.

Obama went 11 months between questions from reporters at one point. 11 months! How is that not hiding, and that was even from his worshipers?
From the Liberal HuffPo:
Obama Administration’s Relationship With Press Among The Worst Ever, Report Shows
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/03/04/obama-press-worst-ever-administrations-relationship_n_6794920.html

Others:
Obama’s legacy will be one of secrecy and hostility toward the press
http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/the-administration/311026-obamas-legacy-will-be-one-of-secrecy-and-hostility

Obama Criticizes the Media, but His Administration Is Part of the Problem
http://fortune.com/2016/03/29/obama-media/

David Gregory: Obama has an 'elitist' view of the media
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/david-gregory-obama-has-an-elitist-view-of-the-media/article/2610361

James Rosen: Obama Treated Media Worse Than Trump
http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2017/02/22/fox-correspondent-obama-worse-than-trump/

Why do democrats always want to litigate the common understanding and meaning/usage of words when the facts go against them?
They have learned well from the head of their crime-family, Slick-Willy, who said, "It depends upon what the meaning of the word 'is' is."

So you're a fan of the media and love using examples from them when they were criticizing President Obama but you now hate the media and call them "fake" whenever they check #45? Which is it? Do you believe mainstream media or do you only cherry pick when you believe them and when you do not based on who they are criticizing?

If it is true that President Obama went 11 months without taking questions from reporters then I'd need to know what was going on in the country at the time. I'm sure you know our country was left in ruins by Obama's predecessor; therefore, he may have been extremely busy fixing the mess he inherited. #45 didn't become president during the worst recession since the Great Depression. If the 11 months of taking no questions occurred during a time period where no serious crisis was being handled, then I'd agree it was wrong of him to avoid the media. Yes, he doesn't have the best record in appearing on the most cable news shows (the same shows that you deem fake news and mainstream/legacy media). Still, there is a profound difference in taking no questions and providing information. And I'm talking about factual information, not the misinformation and disinformation that our current president spews to the media on an almost daily basis.

Others:
Obama’s legacy will be one of secrecy and hostility toward the press
http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/the-administration/311026-obamas-legacy-will-be-one-of-secrecy-and-hostility

Obama Criticizes the Media, but His Administration Is Part of the Problem
http://fortune.com/2016/03/29/obama-media/

David Gregory: Obama has an 'elitist' view of the media
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/david-gregory-obama-has-an-elitist-view-of-the-media/article/2610361

James Rosen: Obama Treated Media Worse Than Trump
http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2017/02/22/fox-correspondent-obama-worse-than-trump/

Why do democrats always want to litigate the common understanding and meaning/usage of words when the facts go against them?
They have learned well from the head of their crime-family, Slick-Willy, who said, "It depends upon what the meaning of the word 'is' is."

@royalcrown89:

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Typical liberal democrat. When facts aren't on your side, try and obfuscate and twist meanings to fit an agenda so you can call people names. When that gets called out you call it spam or irrelevant.

FTR: O'Reilly was actually one of the "real" commentators who covered Obama. He called out what he believed to be his and his administration's failings, but he also called out others who were overly harsh or just plain partisan and discussed the things he thought Obama was doing right. I hate to admit is, because I have always hated O'Reilly, but the truth is the truth.

I'm not going to give a full response to something I've already explained in a previous post within this same thread. The statement from you was that #45's predecessor avoided his critics and I called that a blatant lie and proved it was a blatant lie. Fix your initial comment by saying he didn't sit down with his critics "often." I replied directly to the blatant lie and I deemed it a blatant lie because guess what, it is a blatant lie. Do you want to continue with more blatant lies or is this done?  :fight:

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Typical liberal democrat. When facts aren't on your side, try and obfuscate and twist meanings to fit an agenda so you can call people names. When that gets called out you call it spam or irrelevant.

FTR: O'Reilly was actually one of the "real" commentators who covered Obama. He called out what he believed to be his and his administration's failings, but he also called out others who were overly harsh or just plain partisan and discussed the things he thought Obama was doing right. I hate to admit is, because I have always hated O'Reilly, but the truth is the truth.

@royalcrown89:

@Frederick:

@royalcrown89:

@amicusets:

Trump doesn't hide from the media, and he also gives interviews and questions to outlets that are critical of him, unlike his predecessor.

Blatant lie
http://filmsor.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/obama-fox-news.jpg

A LIE?   You had to go back to Feb 6, 2011 to find an instance where Obama got interviewed by Bill O'Reilly?   Over 6 years ago?  Really?  That muslim terrorist was president for 8 years, and got a free-pass from the press.

6 years ago, 8 years ago; how is that relevant to the quote made by amicusets? The quote was that President Obama "avoided" his critics but there is proof that he did multiple interviews with his critics. No one said anything about how frequent or rare it was, the statement was that he avoided his critics which is a blatant lie.

I get it.. so RoyalCrown89 thinks that only doing 3 interviews with his critics in almost 3000 days is NOT avoiding his critics?  Let me make a picture for you RoyalCrown89.  This is 999 X's and one O which is 1 in 1000 (proportionate to 3 in 3000)
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Hmm… I'd say that Obama was avoiding his critics!

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@Frederick:

@royalcrown89:

@amicusets:

Trump doesn't hide from the media, and he also gives interviews and questions to outlets that are critical of him, unlike his predecessor.

Blatant lie
http://filmsor.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/obama-fox-news.jpg

A LIE?   You had to go back to Feb 6, 2011 to find an instance where Obama got interviewed by Bill O'Reilly?   Over 6 years ago?  Really?  That muslim terrorist was president for 8 years, and got a free-pass from the press.

6 years ago, 8 years ago; how is that relevant to the quote made by amicusets? The quote was that President Obama "avoided" his critics but there is proof that he did multiple interviews with his critics. No one said anything about how frequent or rare it was, the statement was that he avoided his critics which is a blatant lie.

I get it.. so RoyalCrown89 thinks that only doing 3 interviews with his critics in almost 3000 days is NOT avoiding his critics?  Let me make a picture for you RoyalCrown89.  This is 999 X's and one O which is 1 in 1000 (proportionate to 3 in 3000)
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Hmm… I'd say that Obama was avoiding his critics!

@royalcrown89:

@amicusets:

Trump doesn't hide from the media, and he also gives interviews and questions to outlets that are critical of him, unlike his predecessor.

Blatant lie
http://filmsor.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/obama-fox-news.jpg

A LIE?   You had to go back to Feb 6, 2011 to find an instance where Obama got interviewed by Bill O'Reilly?   Over 6 years ago?  Really?  That muslim terrorist was president for 8 years, and got a free-pass from the press.

6 years ago, 8 years ago; how is that relevant to the quote made by amicusets? The quote was that President Obama "avoided" his critics but there is proof that he did multiple interviews with his critics. No one said anything about how frequent or rare it was, the statement was that he avoided his critics which is a blatant lie.

@royalcrown89:

@amicusets:

Trump doesn't hide from the media, and he also gives interviews and questions to outlets that are critical of him, unlike his predecessor.

Blatant lie
http://filmsor.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/obama-fox-news.jpg

8 years in office, 3 sit down interviews:
1st was in March '10 to try and get his Obamacare to poll better so he could get it passed.
2nd was the one you imaged was actually aired on the FOX channel in conjunction with their pre-SuperBowl coverage 4 years later. It also had him chiding Fox News’ Bill O’Reilly as being unfair for asking questions about ObamaCare’s shortcomings, the IRS scandal, and Benghazi.
Last was in April '16, to Chris Wallace, a registered Democrat and one of the moderators for the upcoming Presidential debates.

Obama may have been many things, but he wasn't the greatest advocate for freedom of the press.

"Trump doesn't hide from the media, and he also gives interviews and questions to outlets that are critical of him, unlike his predecessor."

That was word for word what you said, was it not? That is a blatant lie, and I provided just one pic of Barack Obama doing an interview with Fox News anchor Bill O'Reilly who was very, very critical of President Obama. You then proceeded to list the other times Obama sat down with his critics, further proving you posted a blatant lie by saying he avoided them. If he avoided them, there would be NO EXAMPLES. You're a blatant liar. Simple as that.

@amicusets:

Trump doesn't hide from the media, and he also gives interviews and questions to outlets that are critical of him, unlike his predecessor.

Blatant lie
http://filmsor.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/obama-fox-news.jpg

A LIE?  You had to go back to Feb 6, 2011 to find an instance where Obama got interviewed by Bill O'Reilly?  Over 6 years ago?  Really?  That muslim terrorist was president for 8 years, and got a free-pass from the press.

@amicusets:

Trump doesn't hide from the media, and he also gives interviews and questions to outlets that are critical of him, unlike his predecessor.

Blatant lie
http://filmsor.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/obama-fox-news.jpg

8 years in office, 3 sit down interviews:
1st was in March '10 to try and get his Obamacare to poll better so he could get it passed.
2nd was the one you imaged was actually aired on the FOX channel in conjunction with their pre-SuperBowl coverage 4 years later. It also had him chiding Fox News’ Bill O’Reilly as being unfair for asking questions about ObamaCare’s shortcomings, the IRS scandal, and Benghazi.
Last was in April '16, to Chris Wallace, a registered Democrat and one of the moderators for the upcoming Presidential debates.

Obama may have been many things, but he wasn't the greatest advocate for freedom of the press.

Trump doesn't hide from the media, and he also gives interviews and questions to outlets that are critical of him, unlike his predecessor.

Blatant lie
http://filmsor.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/obama-fox-news.jpg

On Tuesday, Sean Spicer, when asked if the White House had anything to do with Comey's firing said:

"It was all him. … No one from the White House. That was a DOJ decision."

On Thursday, Donald Trump told Lester Holt:

"I was going to fire Comey. My decision."

Tell us again how the reason didn't change.

Again, you are assuming that Spicer knows everything. Sometimes he screws up. The President HIMSELF has explained this to a biased reporter that is part of the biased media. Trump doesn't hide from the media, and he also gives interviews and questions to outlets that are critical of him, unlike his predecessor. This is one reason they need to do away with the press briefings. Submit questions and let the Press Office reply at their leisure.

(What is more of a story is how Vince Foster died of a "suicide" the day after President Clinton fired his fiercely independent FBI Chief, William Sessions.)

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The Deputy AG threatened to resign if all blame was pushed off on him, so no the timing has not been debunked; another layer of unknown has been added. Also #45 made things more complicated with his recent NBC News interview with Lester Holt. Why does the reason for Comey's firing keep changing?

MORE FAKE NEWS!!! He never threatened to resign:
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/11/deputy-ag-rosenstein-reportedly-threatened-to-quit-over-depiction-of-his-role-in-comey-dismissal.html

"It was all him. … No one from the White House. That was a DOJ decision."

On Thursday, Donald Trump told Lester Holt:

"I was going to fire Comey. My decision."

Tell us again how the reason didn't change.

_  "Although the President has the power to remove an FBI director, the decision should not be taken lightly. I agree with the nearly unanimous opinions of former Department officials. The way the Director handled the conclusion of the email investigation was wrong. As a result, the FBI is unlikely to regain public and congressional trust until it has a Director who understands the gravity of the mistakes and pledges never to repeat them. Having refused to admit his errors, the Director cannot be expected to implement the necessary corrective actions."_

The reason hasn't changed, btw. It is entirely possible that there were multiple reasons to fire Comey, but why is there a need to drag every single one out of the closet. Trump had a valid reason, and he used it. Everything else is a search in the hopes of finding a story! Just because a Republican does something it doesn't automatically mean that it was wrong; no matter what the "news" tells you!

(What is more of a story is how Vince Foster died of a "suicide" the day after President Clinton fired his fiercely independent FBI Chief, William Sessions.)

Trump wanted Comey gone, everyone wanted Comey gone, and Comey's boss agreed that Comey needed to go since he had been unwilling to admit errors he made in response to the extraordinary errors happening above him (Clintons, Lynch, Rice).

As for the oft-repeated lie that he was fired after asking for more resources, not only did the DOJ state there was ZERO VERACITY to that claim, Comey's #2 guy testified under oath that that wouldn't have happened because that wouldn't have been the process, and that the FBI had all of the resources it needs.

If you all would sit back and breathe, you may have a point in time when Trump does something truly wrong, but this continue boogeyman search is going to wear you out, and the continually wailing from the Left is going to fade into background noise to vast swaths of the American electorate.

One other thing, it is one thing to argue position or opinion, but it is highly distasteful to state claims as facts that are not verifiably factual, especially when there is no attempt to correct the record when the facts play out differently than you had claimed.