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      alibix
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      @raphjd:

      @alibix:

      @raphjd:

      So blacks who don't have a family history of being a slave are hate mongers if they claim black pride.

      Slavery in Africa and the middle east existed long before white people got there and kept going even to this day despite it being illegal in white countries.

      Africans played an active part in the slave trade.

      There were black slave owners in North America and Europe.

      I'm talking about black pride in America. Black people who came from africa as slaves to America which is most black people in the USA.

      Umm, there were black slave owners in the US.    The earliest recorded black slave owners in now what is the US dates back to 1654, though historians say they existed before that.  According to the US Census of 1830, there were 3,775 black slave owners.   The slave owners were black.

      Anthony Johnson, a former indentured servant, was among the very first slave owners in what is now the US.  He fought in court to retain ownership of his indentured servants when their servitude ended and won.

      Native Americans owned African slaves, as well.

      So slavery wasn't a white only thing.

      Did I say it was? This is whatbaoutism on a new fucking level.

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        alibix
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        @gaypraha2:

        I dont have much to say but I approve 200% everything raphjd said. I guess most of us europeans have clearly a different view on the matter. and seriously the first post stating that " there is no white culture"..feel sick just reading that kind of crap 🙂 That's all I'll say on the matter, seems to be a waste of time to argue with some  ;D

        what country are you from in Europe? Why can't it be English pride, Italian pride, Greek pride etc etc. Why white pride?

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          alibix
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          @raphjd:

          @royalcrown89:

          The last thing I'll say on this topic is some of you need to learn what false equivalence means. If I bring up slavery or Jim Crow and the effects those two still have on black life in today's world and your response is "two black people booed Bernie Sanders off stage," then you are comparing a man being booed to the effects of hundreds of years of constant degradation of an entire population of people by another population of people who had more rights than the population being degraded. Slavery and the Jim Crow era were very, very complex. You had freed black people buying and selling slaves sometimes to reunite families torn apart and sometimes for malicious reasons; Native Americans involved with the capturing of runaway slaves in order to keep parts of the land stolen from them; and many other complicated instances involved; therefore, you cannot compare slavery or Jim Crow to someone's hurt feelings. You simply cannot compare hurt feelings to the literal death and second-class treatment of an entire population of people that has had long-lasting effects on said population of people. That is what I have been calling disgusting, and it is disgusting. You can only equivocate mass discrimination, mass murder and the degradation of a people to mass discrimination, mass murder and the degradation of another population of people. If you have nothing to equivocate that with, then what exactly is the point of your argument? Is it to deflect and try to end important discussions that we need to have?

          LOL, you just don't get it do you?!

          Blacks have the privilege to tell Bernie Sanders to "shut the fuck up" and demand that he pander to their whims, without fear of reprisal because if they got into trouble, it would be a racist issue.   Bernie is a jew, look it up.

          Blacks have the privilege of doing many things that would get whites arrested if the races where reversed, like forcing white students to walk through a creek to go to class.

          The rest of your post is a bunch of racial studies apologetics bullshit.

          You are not interested in any discussion, you are only interested in forcing your racist SJW version of reality on everyone.

          You are comparing a protest to Sanders and a one off student protest in a University (which white people participated in) to fucking Jim Crow and Black supremacy?

          What the fuck man?

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          • raphjdR Offline
            raphjd Forum Administrator
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            @alibix:

            @raphjd:

            LOL, you just don't get it do you?!

            Blacks have the privilege to tell Bernie Sanders to "shut the fuck up" and demand that he pander to their whims, without fear of reprisal because if they got into trouble, it would be a racist issue.   Bernie is a jew, look it up.

            Blacks have the privilege of doing many things that would get whites arrested if the races where reversed, like forcing white students to walk through a creek to go to class.

            The rest of your post is a bunch of racial studies apologetics bullshit.

            You are not interested in any discussion, you are only interested in forcing your racist SJW version of reality on everyone.

            You are comparing a protest to Sanders and a one off student protest in a University (which white people participated in) to fucking Jim Crow and Black supremacy?

            What the fuck man?

            They aren't one-offs and if you paid attention you would know that.  Blacks have been hijacking everything in sight and demanding that everyone pander to them.    They know they can get away with it because no one wants to punish them because it would then become an anti-black racist thing.

            You are blind.  It's black people who are now demanding we bring back Jim Crow.

            Black Supremacy has always been around and it's ok for people to be black supremacists.

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              alibix
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              @raphjd:

              @alibix:

              @raphjd:

              LOL, you just don't get it do you?!

              Blacks have the privilege to tell Bernie Sanders to "shut the fuck up" and demand that he pander to their whims, without fear of reprisal because if they got into trouble, it would be a racist issue.   Bernie is a jew, look it up.

              Blacks have the privilege of doing many things that would get whites arrested if the races where reversed, like forcing white students to walk through a creek to go to class.

              The rest of your post is a bunch of racial studies apologetics bullshit.

              You are not interested in any discussion, you are only interested in forcing your racist SJW version of reality on everyone.

              You are comparing a protest to Sanders and a one off student protest in a University (which white people participated in) to fucking Jim Crow and Black supremacy?

              What the fuck man?

              They aren't one-offs and if you paid attention you would know that.  Blacks have been hijacking everything in sight and demanding that everyone pander to them.    They know they can get away with it because no one wants to punish them because it would then become an anti-black racist thing.

              You are blind.  It's black people who are now demanding we bring back Jim Crow.

              Black Supremacy has always been around and it's ok for people to be black supremacists.

              Jesus.

              Student protest = Jim Crow

              I'm sorry man. Clearly nothing is going to change you and you are going to see the world in the only way you want to see it.

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                royalcrown89
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                @alibix:

                @raphjd:

                @alibix:

                @raphjd:

                LOL, you just don't get it do you?!

                Blacks have the privilege to tell Bernie Sanders to "shut the fuck up" and demand that he pander to their whims, without fear of reprisal because if they got into trouble, it would be a racist issue.   Bernie is a jew, look it up.

                Blacks have the privilege of doing many things that would get whites arrested if the races where reversed, like forcing white students to walk through a creek to go to class.

                The rest of your post is a bunch of racial studies apologetics bullshit.

                You are not interested in any discussion, you are only interested in forcing your racist SJW version of reality on everyone.

                You are comparing a protest to Sanders and a one off student protest in a University (which white people participated in) to fucking Jim Crow and Black supremacy?

                What the fuck man?

                They aren't one-offs and if you paid attention you would know that.  Blacks have been hijacking everything in sight and demanding that everyone pander to them.    They know they can get away with it because no one wants to punish them because it would then become an anti-black racist thing.

                You are blind.  It's black people who are now demanding we bring back Jim Crow.

                Black Supremacy has always been around and it's ok for people to be black supremacists.

                Jesus.

                Student protest = Jim Crow

                I'm sorry man. Clearly nothing is going to change you and you are going to see the world in the only way you want to see it.

                That's exactly what I said. What he is doing is attempting to erase the atrocities that have taken place historically and currently against black people in America. He's completely disregarding what we know to be true by falsely equivocating damning acts of brutality and the ramifications of those acts with students (black and white by the way) protesting Bernie Sanders. That is so disgusting and harmful to do. You cannot equate someone's hurt feelings to years of oppression against a set of people sanctioned by the very land we all call home. It's very disappointing and the saddest part is he doesn't even realize he's doing it. You can't attempt to erase the heritage (good and bad) of a people and expect to win an argument based off of that attempt at erasure.

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                  dozerbear1
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                  what country are you from in Europe? Why can't it be English pride, Italian pride, Greek pride etc etc. Why white pride?

                  Why NOT white pride? I have ancestors from England, Ireland, Germany, and some that I can't trace. So if I say English pride, that's a microaggression and a trigger for the Irish part, and it's on like Belfast back in the 70s. Then when Oktoberfest comes around and I say German pride, the English part feels discriminated against and needs to find a safe space. On top of that I'm not being inclusive to the part I don't know about, and since I don't want it to feel marginalized I got all of them together and decided on white pride.

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                    alibix
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                    @dozerbear1:

                    what country are you from in Europe? Why can't it be English pride, Italian pride, Greek pride etc etc. Why white pride?

                    Why NOT white pride? I have ancestors from England, Ireland, Germany, and some that I can't trace. So if I say English pride, that's a microaggression and a trigger for the Irish part, and it's on like Belfast back in the 70s. Then when Oktoberfest comes around and I say German pride, the English part feels discriminated against and needs to find a safe space. On top of that I'm not being inclusive to the part I don't know about, and since I don't want it to feel marginalized I got all of them together and decided on white pride.

                    Nobody's saying that but you bud. You can be proud of all those countries…
                    They're culture is very different though, which makes 'white pride' kind of weird.

                    Plus the people who use 'white pride' are usually racist cunts because there is a stigma to white pride (coming from history obviously).

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                    • raphjdR Offline
                      raphjd Forum Administrator
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                      @alibix:

                      @raphjd:

                      @alibix:

                      @raphjd:

                      LOL, you just don't get it do you?!

                      Blacks have the privilege to tell Bernie Sanders to "shut the fuck up" and demand that he pander to their whims, without fear of reprisal because if they got into trouble, it would be a racist issue.   Bernie is a jew, look it up.

                      Blacks have the privilege of doing many things that would get whites arrested if the races where reversed, like forcing white students to walk through a creek to go to class.

                      The rest of your post is a bunch of racial studies apologetics bullshit.

                      You are not interested in any discussion, you are only interested in forcing your racist SJW version of reality on everyone.

                      You are comparing a protest to Sanders and a one off student protest in a University (which white people participated in) to fucking Jim Crow and Black supremacy?

                      What the fuck man?

                      They aren't one-offs and if you paid attention you would know that.  Blacks have been hijacking everything in sight and demanding that everyone pander to them.    They know they can get away with it because no one wants to punish them because it would then become an anti-black racist thing.

                      You are blind.  It's black people who are now demanding we bring back Jim Crow.

                      Black Supremacy has always been around and it's ok for people to be black supremacists.

                      Jesus.

                      Student protest = Jim Crow

                      I'm sorry man. Clearly nothing is going to change you and you are going to see the world in the only way you want to see it.

                      Clearly dishonesty is a personality trait for you.

                      Black students demanding racial segregation = Jim Crow.

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                      • raphjdR Offline
                        raphjd Forum Administrator
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                        @alibix:

                        @dozerbear1:

                        what country are you from in Europe? Why can't it be English pride, Italian pride, Greek pride etc etc. Why white pride?

                        Why NOT white pride? I have ancestors from England, Ireland, Germany, and some that I can't trace. So if I say English pride, that's a microaggression and a trigger for the Irish part, and it's on like Belfast back in the 70s. Then when Oktoberfest comes around and I say German pride, the English part feels discriminated against and needs to find a safe space. On top of that I'm not being inclusive to the part I don't know about, and since I don't want it to feel marginalized I got all of them together and decided on white pride.

                        Nobody's saying that but you bud. You can be proud of all those countries…
                        They're culture is very different though, which makes 'white pride' kind of weird.

                        Plus the people who use 'white pride' are usually racist cunts because there is a stigma to white pride (coming from history obviously).

                        Using the logic about black pride the SJWs here are spewing, white pride is equally valid since white America has it's own culture.

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                          Nagamaki
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                          What is an example of white American culture?

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                          • raphjdR Offline
                            raphjd Forum Administrator
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                            What isn't?

                            White American culture is a mix of many coultures.

                            It's like black American culture.

                            American culture is mutt culture, regardless of race.

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                              alibix
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                              @raphjd:

                              @alibix:

                              @raphjd:

                              @alibix:

                              @raphjd:

                              LOL, you just don't get it do you?!

                              Blacks have the privilege to tell Bernie Sanders to "shut the fuck up" and demand that he pander to their whims, without fear of reprisal because if they got into trouble, it would be a racist issue.   Bernie is a jew, look it up.

                              Blacks have the privilege of doing many things that would get whites arrested if the races where reversed, like forcing white students to walk through a creek to go to class.

                              The rest of your post is a bunch of racial studies apologetics bullshit.

                              You are not interested in any discussion, you are only interested in forcing your racist SJW version of reality on everyone.

                              You are comparing a protest to Sanders and a one off student protest in a University (which white people participated in) to fucking Jim Crow and Black supremacy?

                              What the fuck man?

                              They aren't one-offs and if you paid attention you would know that.  Blacks have been hijacking everything in sight and demanding that everyone pander to them.    They know they can get away with it because no one wants to punish them because it would then become an anti-black racist thing.

                              You are blind.  It's black people who are now demanding we bring back Jim Crow.

                              Black Supremacy has always been around and it's ok for people to be black supremacists.

                              Jesus.

                              Student protest = Jim Crow

                              I'm sorry man. Clearly nothing is going to change you and you are going to see the world in the only way you want to see it.

                              Clearly dishonesty is a personality trait for you.

                              Black students demanding racial segregation = Jim Crow.

                              Black AND white students protesting for safe spaces in college =/= Jim Crow
                              http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/oct/24/berkeley-protesters-form-human-chain-stop-white-st/

                              I can't believe you're comparing decades of racial discrimination, persecution to this. A student protest (made of BLACK and WHITE) students.

                              And you make it seem as if these people represent all black people in America.

                              I don't know what to say anymore.

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                                raphjd Forum Administrator
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                                LOL,  black students demanding segregation is Jim Crow.

                                Delusional SJWs can be talked into anything, no matter how crackhead it is.  There's a lovely video on YouTube that shows a guy getting sudents to sign a "penis tax" petition.  Yeah, men and women signing a petition for men to be taxed 25% more than women.    There's a similar video of them signing a "whiteness tax" petition.

                                TRUE, these fuckheads don't represent ALL people, just SJWs.

                                It's like that lunatic black girl screaming at her professor, claiming that YALE is a home, not a place of learning.

                                As I keep pointing out, the internet is full of SJWs doing lunatic things.

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                                  bob5678
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                                  Black pride = being proud of who you are in spite of the racism, discrimination, oppression etc you experience for having a darker skin tone.

                                  White pride = actively proclaiming hatred of others for no reason and advocating the extermination of others for the simple fact that they're different than you.

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                                    royalcrown89
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                                    @bob5678:

                                    Black pride = being proud of who you are in spite of the racism, discrimination, oppression etc you experience for having a darker skin tone.

                                    White pride = actively proclaiming hatred of others for no reason and advocating the extermination of others for the simple fact that they're different than you.

                                    Thank you! Go to a white pride parade and you'll see KKK members (which are not at all equal to the Black Panthers). The KKK has MURDERED people in this country and have a very bloody history. Many leaders within the Black Panther movement were murdered by the government.

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                                    • raphjdR Offline
                                      raphjd Forum Administrator
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                                      @royalcrown89:

                                      @bob5678:

                                      Black pride = being proud of who you are in spite of the racism, discrimination, oppression etc you experience for having a darker skin tone.

                                      White pride = actively proclaiming hatred of others for no reason and advocating the extermination of others for the simple fact that they're different than you.

                                      Thank you! Go to a white pride parade and you'll see KKK members (which are not at all equal to the Black Panthers). The KKK has MURDERED people in this country and have a very bloody history. Many leaders within the Black Panther movement were murdered by the government.

                                      ALSO,  GWB arrested those Black Panters shouting and threatening whites outside the voting station in 2008,  Obama and Eric Holder dropped all the charges.  I bet they wouldn't have done it if it were KKK members arrested for that.

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                                      • royalcrown89R Offline
                                        royalcrown89
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                                        @raphjd:

                                        @royalcrown89:

                                        @bob5678:

                                        Black pride = being proud of who you are in spite of the racism, discrimination, oppression etc you experience for having a darker skin tone.

                                        White pride = actively proclaiming hatred of others for no reason and advocating the extermination of others for the simple fact that they're different than you.

                                        Thank you! Go to a white pride parade and you'll see KKK members (which are not at all equal to the Black Panthers). The KKK has MURDERED people in this country and have a very bloody history. Many leaders within the Black Panther movement were murdered by the government.

                                        ALSO,   GWB arrested those Black Panters shouting and threatening whites outside the voting station in 2008,  Obama and Eric Holder dropped all the charges.   I bet they wouldn't have done it if it were KKK members arrested for that.

                                        Two black men associated with something called the "New Black Panthers" is not connected to the historical Black Panther Party, so try again. And um hello, it was two guys. Have you seen KKK members march before? It's usually more than 100 men.

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                                        • raphjdR Offline
                                          raphjd Forum Administrator
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                                          Still ignoring the fact that those 2 "new" Black Panther guys violated federal voting laws, which is why they were arrested under the GWB administration.

                                          Along comes Obama and Holder and suddenly all charges are dropped.

                                          It looks suspiciously like race had something to do with the charges being dropped.

                                          It's funny how you can justify/ignore when blacks do things wrong, while screaming racist conspiracy theories.

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                                            magentas
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                                            In forums with straight people, some of them yell angrily "why is there "gay pride?" Why not "Straight pride?" If it is just the way you are born, what is there to be proud of?"

                                            The way I explained it is that "pride" in this case does not mean arrogant superiority. It means lack of inferiority. Gay people, and black people, have been told our entire lives that we are inferior. That we should be ashamed of who we are. Straight people and white people are NOT taught to feel inferior for those characteristics.

                                            Gay pride and black pride is just telling gay people and black people that they have no reason to feel ashamed of who they are.

                                            Numerous times when I have posted that explanation it was enough for straight people to understand.

                                            I have a feeling the racist Milos in this forum will still complain- because they have demonstrated a complete inability to ever even CONSIDER someone else's viewpoint.

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