SJWS - Has anyone met one?
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You are too limiting on what an SJW is.
SJWs include feminists, BLM, "Just Believe", the "Slut Walk", "Take Back the Night" and many, many others.
It's Norweign male politicians who apologize to their muslim rapist.
It's Swedish feminist Left Party politicians that claims being raped by Swedish men is worse than being raped by muslims.
It's the people that defend muslim "refugees" who rape 10yo boys because they had a "sexual emergency".
It's the people who demand the media de-muslim/de-refugee media articles, like the Paris McDonald's killer story.
So anyone who disagrees with you?
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It's hard to ignore something when it starts to impact the cultural landscape beyond the Internet (and SJW-ism has done just that, if that weren't already glaringly obvious). Sadly, enough people got fed up with the "vocal minority" of narcissistic, lying, self-righteous, hypocritical social justice fruitcakes, and now we have Donald Trump as our president (Thanks, SJW's. Really proves how effective your tactics of shutting down "the opposition" have been). Partisan politics are just political football for insular, narcissistic assholes. That is precisely why the US political pendulum keeps swinging between idiotic extremes, instead of happy mediums.
Quite a few of my friends more or less fit into the SJW or SJW-parroting category. I just can't fucking talk to them about political shit. I just have to smile and nod and let them go on until they run out of steam.
Vocal Minority? To be honest, the only time I EVER hear about SJWs is when other people on the internet complain about them.
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yeah I've met a few, some are irritating and are too far left politically for my tastes, some are more centrists and fit with my political views
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You are too limiting on what an SJW is.
SJWs include feminists, BLM, "Just Believe", the "Slut Walk", "Take Back the Night" and many, many others.
It's Norweign male politicians who apologize to their muslim rapist.
It's Swedish feminist Left Party politicians that claims being raped by Swedish men is worse than being raped by muslims.
It's the people that defend muslim "refugees" who rape 10yo boys because they had a "sexual emergency".
It's the people who demand the media de-muslim/de-refugee media articles, like the Paris McDonald's killer story.
So anyone who disagrees with you?
Again, you are being too simplistic about it, which is typical for SJWs.
Vocal Minority? To be honest, the only time I EVER hear about SJWs is when other people on the internet complain about them.
I'm betting you don't notice them because they fit into your echo chamber and confirmation biases.
These people are everywhere. They are on TV (you can find a lot of the stuff copied to YouTube), they are all over mass media.
SJWs routinely make it into mass media because they false flag themselves. As it turns out, none of the rapes that made international news in the last 20 years was real. The same goes for pro Trump violence. But as the SJW campaign tells us; JUST BELIEVE.
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It's hard to ignore something when it starts to impact the cultural landscape beyond the Internet (and SJW-ism has done just that, if that weren't already glaringly obvious). Sadly, enough people got fed up with the "vocal minority" of narcissistic, lying, self-righteous, hypocritical social justice fruitcakes, and now we have Donald Trump as our president (Thanks, SJW's. Really proves how effective your tactics of shutting down "the opposition" have been). Partisan politics are just political football for insular, narcissistic assholes. That is precisely why the US political pendulum keeps swinging between idiotic extremes, instead of happy mediums.
Quite a few of my friends more or less fit into the SJW or SJW-parroting category. I just can't fucking talk to them about political shit. I just have to smile and nod and let them go on until they run out of steam.
Vocal Minority? To be honest, the only time I EVER hear about SJWs is when other people on the internet complain about them.
If SJWs are as rare as you claim, then you have to explain Canada's Bill C-16.
That's the bill that criminalizes people who refuse to call people by any made up personal pronoun they want to use, among other things.
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Of course I have… we all have. Now imagine how difficult it is to find friends in the Northeast USA, make a living in the theater and academic arenas, be a gay man married to a real-life Indian Chief AND be a person with less than the liberal talking points prevalent in today's society and an inability to let stupid shit be said without responding-- it isn't easy! :crazy2:
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If SJWs are as rare as you claim, then you have to explain Canada's Bill C-16.
That's the bill that criminalizes people who refuse to call people by any made up personal pronoun they want to use, among other things.
So if I refuse to call someone cisgender, or pansexual or non-binary, non comforming or whatever label they picked up in tumblr (no matter how little sense it makes to me) for themselves, then I'm commiting a hate crime?
Way to go Canada…. (It's all your fault USA, you infected the nice Canadians! D:< )
That's it. I'm going to Australia.
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If SJWs are as rare as you claim, then you have to explain Canada's Bill C-16.
That's the bill that criminalizes people who refuse to call people by any made up personal pronoun they want to use, among other things.
So if I refuse to call someone cisgender, or pansexual or non-binary, non comforming or whatever label they picked up in tumblr (no matter how little sense it makes to me) for themselves, then I'm commiting a hate crime?
Way to go Canada…. (It's all your fault USA, you infected the nice Canadians! D:< )
That's it. I'm going to Australia.
I don't think it's quite that.
The part I was referring to is the bit of C-16 that requires you to call someone by their personally chosen pronouns. Traditionally, personal pronouns are HE, HIM, HIS, SHE, HER, HERS, THEY, THEY'RE, THEIRS. Now it can literally be anything a person can imagine.
Excluding the muslim issue, Canada is only beaten for the SJW award by Sweden.
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I don't think it's quite that.
The part I was referring to is the bit of C-16 that requires you to call someone by their personally chosen pronouns. Traditionally, personal pronouns are HE, HIM, HIS, SHE, HER, HERS, THEY, THEY'RE, THEIRS. Now it can literally be anything a person can imagine.
Excluding the muslim issue, Canada is only beaten for the SJW award by Sweden.
Oh. Thanks for clearing that up. But still…dammit, human relationships are as complicated as they are without all this nonsense. And somehow they manage to tangle them up more...
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I don't think it's quite that.
The part I was referring to is the bit of C-16 that requires you to call someone by their personally chosen pronouns. Traditionally, personal pronouns are HE, HIM, HIS, SHE, HER, HERS, THEY, THEY'RE, THEIRS. Now it can literally be anything a person can imagine.
Excluding the muslim issue, Canada is only beaten for the SJW award by Sweden.
Oh. Thanks for clearing that up. But still…dammit, human relationships are as complicated as they are without all this nonsense. And somehow they manage to tangle them up more...
This is a textbook example of what I'm trying to talk about. Extreme exaggeration to make this huge, everpresent enemy that doesn't really exist.
http://sds.utoronto.ca/blog/bill-c-16-no-its-not-about-criminalizing-pronoun-misuse/
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You are too limiting on what an SJW is.
SJWs include feminists, BLM, "Just Believe", the "Slut Walk", "Take Back the Night" and many, many others.
It's Norweign male politicians who apologize to their muslim rapist.
It's Swedish feminist Left Party politicians that claims being raped by Swedish men is worse than being raped by muslims.
It's the people that defend muslim "refugees" who rape 10yo boys because they had a "sexual emergency".
It's the people who demand the media de-muslim/de-refugee media articles, like the Paris McDonald's killer story.
So anyone who disagrees with you?
Again, you are being too simplistic about it, which is typical for SJWs.
Vocal Minority? To be honest, the only time I EVER hear about SJWs is when other people on the internet complain about them.
I'm betting you don't notice them because they fit into your echo chamber and confirmation biases.
These people are everywhere. They are on TV (you can find a lot of the stuff copied to YouTube), they are all over mass media.
SJWs routinely make it into mass media because they false flag themselves. As it turns out, none of the rapes that made international news in the last 20 years was real. The same goes for pro Trump violence. But as the SJW campaign tells us; JUST BELIEVE.
Holy fucking shit, I'M the one in a fucking echo chamber???
You're the one that posts SJW bullshit all day on tis forum so that people can jack off with you on how bad SJWS are.
I'm the one in a fucking echochamber, jesus christ.SJW seem to just be a convenient term to label anyone you don't like. And you are fucking obsessed - just as obsessed as SJWs are.
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yeah I've met a few, some are irritating and are too far left politically for my tastes, some are more centrists and fit with my political views
Could you give specific examples? Something on the level of 'did you assume my gender' and 'xe and xer'?
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I'm white and gainfully employed…so I don't have to care about social justice.
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I don't think it's quite that.
The part I was referring to is the bit of C-16 that requires you to call someone by their personally chosen pronouns. Traditionally, personal pronouns are HE, HIM, HIS, SHE, HER, HERS, THEY, THEY'RE, THEIRS. Now it can literally be anything a person can imagine.
Excluding the muslim issue, Canada is only beaten for the SJW award by Sweden.
Oh. Thanks for clearing that up. But still…dammit, human relationships are as complicated as they are without all this nonsense. And somehow they manage to tangle them up more...
This is a textbook example of what I'm trying to talk about. Extreme exaggeration to make this huge, everpresent enemy that doesn't really exist.
http://sds.utoronto.ca/blog/bill-c-16-no-its-not-about-criminalizing-pronoun-misuse/
Did you even read that link?
Just because there isn't a prison sentence assigned to this, it's still got plenty of punative measures in the courts. It's nice how you try to make it appear that I lying about it.
Holy fucking shit, I'M the one in a fucking echo chamber???
You're the one that posts SJW bullshit all day on tis forum so that people can jack off with you on how bad SJWS are.
I'm the one in a fucking echochamber, jesus christ.SJW seem to just be a convenient term to label anyone you don't like. And you are fucking obsessed - just as obsessed as SJWs are.
Your desperation to deny that SJWs are common place shows that you are clearly in an echo chamber. That, or you are being dishonest.
I actually think that you are in an echo chamber and you don't notice SJWs because they fit your confirmation biases. You clearly don't view all the SJW actions over the last decade as anything odd or bad.
LOL, I think you mean like how your side loves to scream "Trump supporter", "racist", "homophobe" and everything else at anyone who disagrees with you.
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I'm not gonna go too deep in what Social Justice means, I'm gonna stick to the category of SJW the OP referred to.
I use Tumblr (and occasionally Reddit) for about 6 years now and I can assume you that things are way worse than you think they are. Just an idea of what kind of arguments exist:
- PERSONAL PRONOUNS: people believe they can CREATE new personal pronouns in a language. Xe/xer, ye/yer, zee/zer, ey/eyr… LITERALLY EVERYONE CREATES THEIR OWN PRONOUNS. Guys, it doesn't work like that. Pronouns are core words and a closed category in a language. You don't just add or remove words that easily. It needs natural evolution of language to happen, and even then only the form of the pronoun may change and not the meaning. Plus, when it comes to gender-neutral pronouns, English is one of the few gender-languages that have gender-neutral pronouns: they/them/their(s). Yes, they are valid pronouns, and they are 100% grammatical and they have been used for ages. If you cannot conform yourself in a specific sex and you feel like using gender-neuter pronouns, stick to the ones that already exist and are canon.
- NEW SEXUALITIES, ROMANTICITIES, AND GENDERS: Iculasexual is not a sexuality. Scoliogender is not a gender. And otherkins (people who believe they are not human but something else, such as an animal, a plant, a mythical creature, a non-living thing, or even an idea) are a joke. And sadly, people on Tumblr and other places will reclaim that belonging to another species is a valid idea, and that includes people who think they are dragons, angels, chairs, or tampons. IF YOU DO ANY OF THOSE PLEASE STOP! You may think you promote equality, etc, but all you do is dehumanize and ridicule the queer spectrum, identity, and philosophy.
- SHAMING MAJORITIES: Tumblr users often try to fight racism, misogyny, homophobia, transphobia, etc by attacking the majority. That means shaming people for being white, cisgender, heterosexual, male, fully-abled, mentally stable or neurotypical. THEY HAVE TO BE STOPPED.
- RADICAL FEMINISM: Fake "feminism", which is basically dehumanizing male individuals (see: misandry) to counterpart misogyny. Also dehumanizes females who take care of their body, use make-up, work in the sex industry, like sex and are proud of it, are attracted to men only, etc. The problem here is not that radical feminism exists. People can hate whomever they want. Just don't call your hate towards men "feminism" cause it makes real feminism (AKA gender EQUALITY) look bad. Which it's not.
BELIEVING IN ANY OF THOSE THINGS DOESN'T MAKE YOU "COOL" OR "RAD" OR "WOKE". IT MAKES YOU LOOK STUPID. Stop the madness, please.
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I don't think it's quite that.
The part I was referring to is the bit of C-16 that requires you to call someone by their personally chosen pronouns. Traditionally, personal pronouns are HE, HIM, HIS, SHE, HER, HERS, THEY, THEY'RE, THEIRS. Now it can literally be anything a person can imagine.
Excluding the muslim issue, Canada is only beaten for the SJW award by Sweden.
Oh. Thanks for clearing that up. But still…dammit, human relationships are as complicated as they are without all this nonsense. And somehow they manage to tangle them up more...
This is a textbook example of what I'm trying to talk about. Extreme exaggeration to make this huge, everpresent enemy that doesn't really exist.
http://sds.utoronto.ca/blog/bill-c-16-no-its-not-about-criminalizing-pronoun-misuse/
Did you even read that link?
Just because there isn't a prison sentence assigned to this, it's still got plenty of punative measures in the courts. It's nice how you try to make it appear that I lying about it.
Holy fucking shit, I'M the one in a fucking echo chamber???
You're the one that posts SJW bullshit all day on tis forum so that people can jack off with you on how bad SJWS are.
I'm the one in a fucking echochamber, jesus christ.SJW seem to just be a convenient term to label anyone you don't like. And you are fucking obsessed - just as obsessed as SJWs are.
Your desperation to deny that SJWs are common place shows that you are clearly in an echo chamber. That, or you are being dishonest.
I actually think that you are in an echo chamber and you don't notice SJWs because they fit your confirmation biases. You clearly don't view all the SJW actions over the last decade as anything odd or bad.
LOL, I think you mean like how your side loves to scream "Trump supporter", "racist", "homophobe" and everything else at anyone who disagrees with you.
Did you read it? You are over exaggerating to the extreme. No one will ever be jailed for using the wrong pronoun. YOU DON'T HAVE TO CALL PEOPLE BY THEIR PRONOUNS EITHER. THE BILL DOESN'T FUCKING DO THAT.
Let me tell you what kind of chamber I'm in - my college is FULL of people like you that constantly scream the tired 'TRIGGERED' meme all the time and it's the same in most places or with most people here. That's my point, I see people talk about SJWS and complain about them WAY more than I actually see one or interact with one.
I like how you ignored the part where I said that you were in an echo chamber.
And now you're saying things that I've never done because?
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I'm not gonna go too deep in what Social Justice means, I'm gonna stick to the category of SJW the OP referred to.
I use Tumblr (and occasionally Reddit) for about 6 years now and I can assume you that things are way worse than you think they are. Just an idea of what kind of arguments exist:
- PERSONAL PRONOUNS: people believe they can CREATE new personal pronouns in a language. Xe/xer, ye/yer, zee/zer, ey/eyr… LITERALLY EVERYONE CREATES THEIR OWN PRONOUNS. Guys, it doesn't work like that. Pronouns are core words and a closed category in a language. You don't just add or remove words that easily. It needs natural evolution of language to happen, and even then only the form of the pronoun may change and not the meaning. Plus, when it comes to gender-neutral pronouns, English is one of the few gender-languages that have gender-neutral pronouns: they/them/their(s). Yes, they are valid pronouns, and they are 100% grammatical and they have been used for ages. If you cannot conform yourself in a specific sex and you feel like using gender-neuter pronouns, stick to the ones that already exist and are canon.
- NEW SEXUALITIES, ROMANTICITIES, AND GENDERS: Iculasexual is not a sexuality. Scoliogender is not a gender. And otherkins (people who believe they are not human but something else, such as an animal, a plant, a mythical creature, a non-living thing, or even an idea) are a joke. And sadly, people on Tumblr and other places will reclaim that belonging to another species is a valid idea, and that includes people who think they are dragons, angels, chairs, or tampons. IF YOU DO ANY OF THOSE PLEASE STOP! You may think you promote equality, etc, but all you do is dehumanize and ridicule the queer spectrum, identity, and philosophy.
- SHAMING MAJORITIES: Tumblr users often try to fight racism, misogyny, homophobia, transphobia, etc by attacking the majority. That means shaming people for being white, cisgender, heterosexual, male, fully-abled, mentally stable or neurotypical. THEY HAVE TO BE STOPPED.
- RADICAL FEMINISM: Fake "feminism", which is basically dehumanizing male individuals (see: misandry) to counterpart misogyny. Also dehumanizes females who take care of their body, use make-up, work in the sex industry, like sex and are proud of it, are attracted to men only, etc. The problem here is not that radical feminism exists. People can hate whomever they want. Just don't call your hate towards men "feminism" cause it makes real feminism (AKA gender EQUALITY) look bad. Which it's not.
BELIEVING IN ANY OF THOSE THINGS DOESN'T MAKE YOU "COOL" OR "RAD" OR "WOKE". IT MAKES YOU LOOK STUPID. Stop the madness, please.
Could you give any example of this stuff in real life and not tumblr?
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I guess you ignored this bit from your link;
Non-discrimination on the basis of gender identity and expression may very well be interpreted by the courts in the future to include the right to be identified by a person’s self identified pronoun. The Ontario Human Rights Commission, for example, in their Policy on Preventing Discrimination Because of Gender Identity and Expression states that gender harassment should include “ Refusing to refer to a person by their self-identified name and proper personal pronoun”. In other words, pronoun misuse may become actionable, though the Human Rights Tribunals and courts. And the remedies? Monetary damages, non-financial remedies (for example, ceasing the discriminatory practice or reinstatement to job) and public interest remedies (for example, changing hiring practices or developing non-discriminatory policies and procedures). Jail time is not one of them.
Just because prison isn't one of the punishments, doesn't mean that refusing to use some made up personal pronouns is being criminalized.
Not cleaning up after your dog (dog fouling) is a criminal offense with no jail time. The same with littering. The only difference is the amount of the financial penalty. Many things are criminal offenses, that have no jail time.
You are soooooooooooo desperate to make everyone believe that SJWs don't exist, that you are willing to distort anything that counters your stance.
If you want real world examples of SJWs, then watch YouTube videos. There are countless videos of SJWs doing what they do best. You get to see their logic coming from their own mouths. You get to see how peaceful and lovely they are when someone disagrees with them. You get to see them pour piss on Lauren Southern and try to run away but get caught, because she doesn't agree that there are unliited genders.
You could research all the things I said about feminists/feminism, so you will see that I'm right.
Don't use Tumbler, MTV Decoded, Laci Green and other SJWs to get your info.
Don't listen to Obama and Hillary about SJW "facts". Do the right thing, look at official government stats that proven them wrong or liars.
Don't automatically assume that people who disagree with you are Trump supporters. I hate Trump, just as much as I hate Obama and Hillary.
Don't assume that we're all right wing, because I've only ever voted for 1 republican. Don't assume that people on the right are homophobic. It was the Tory party that gave the UK equal marriage, not Labour or LibDems. The Labour party said they weren't going to revisit Equal marriage because gays civil partnerships. "Separate and somewhat equal" was good enough for the UK's version of the Democrats.
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I don't think it's quite that.
The part I was referring to is the bit of C-16 that requires you to call someone by their personally chosen pronouns. Traditionally, personal pronouns are HE, HIM, HIS, SHE, HER, HERS, THEY, THEY'RE, THEIRS. Now it can literally be anything a person can imagine.
Excluding the muslim issue, Canada is only beaten for the SJW award by Sweden.
Oh. Thanks for clearing that up. But still…dammit, human relationships are as complicated as they are without all this nonsense. And somehow they manage to tangle them up more...
This is a textbook example of what I'm trying to talk about. Extreme exaggeration to make this huge, everpresent enemy that doesn't really exist.
http://sds.utoronto.ca/blog/bill-c-16-no-its-not-about-criminalizing-pronoun-misuse/
I just noticed that you used an article by a Professor of Gender Diversity Studies. Can we say "biased"?! You really should watch the debates on C-16. You can find the videos on YouTube.
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"SJW" is just the new cool fearmongering term that conservatives and some centrists like to use, just like the "uppities" and the Great Feminist Menace
of yesteryear (even though some people today still seem to be stuck in the past, tragically).The reality is that save for a few misguided folks, usually teens who don't have a very in-depth grasp of social politics, as well as a good lot of blatant trolls who know very well what they're doing, the majority of what gets classified as "some kind of SJW bullshit" can be anything from centrist/mainstream/"normal" equality politics (the kind your local law already accounts for, probably, unless you live in some fundie haven), to politics further on the left that favour equity over equality, to radical left politics which don't beat around the bush when it comes to identifying and bringing attention to inequality and "heavier" forms of oppression (like fascism or imperialism), and which are generally known for not being very nice, as they forego all forms of respectability politics.
It's a lot easier to just call everything you don't like or wish to comprehend "SJW bullshit" and label everyone who tries to have a rational discussion about these politics a "pesky SJW" or a "tumblrina" even if they aren't as per the words' definitions, which is why threads like these end up being created everywhere on the Internet, including gay porn sites apparently.
EDIT: Also, according to a lot of people, even something as simple as bringing up LGBT topics or just mentioning that gay people exist is considered "SJW bullshit" and "pandering", which should give you an idea of just how useful that term is in general.
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