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    • raphjdR Offline
      raphjd Forum Administrator
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      Sounds like we have the London mayor here.  He said we have to accept terrorism as part of life and not do anything to prevent it otherwise we'll upset the terrorists.

      Why do western countries have to change to suit the immigrants?  The US has to change to suit illegals, muslim immigrants, and all manner of non-American people.    The same here in Europe, but it's far worse here.

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        Whatever about Donald or Hilary, Milo is a fucking asshole. He's a narcissistic polemicist with bleached hair and caked-on makeup - he just saw a bandwagon he could jump on.

        "LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME! I'M A FAGGOT! LOL, SAYING FAGGOT IS FUN! BREITBART.COM! LOOK AT MY ARTICLE! READ MY BLOG! I'M WEARING PEARLS, SUCH A FAGGOT AMIRITE?"

        I hate how Milo is now ever-present. He's a quack, he's just blogger who saw an exploitable niche and filled it. But because he's "on message", the alt-right love him. His smug airbrushed picture with his permed hair and makup…christ.

        The first time I ever saw him was on the Joe Rogan podcast, he was kinda torn the fuck apart. The manner in which he speaks gives you the impression that he is completely insecure with himself.

        He has talking points and soundbites, but I doubt he could handle a true debate to save his life.

        Also? All you people thinking of voting for Gary or Jill - even Nader regretted splitting the vote.

        :)

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          jbm86
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          @raphjd:

          Sounds like we have the London mayor here.   He said we have to accept terrorism as part of life and not do anything to prevent it otherwise we'll upset the terrorists.

          Why do western countries have to change to suit the immigrants?   The US has to change to suit illegals, muslim immigrants, and all manner of non-American people.    The same here in Europe, but it's far worse here.

          This. A million times this.

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            Milo, like 99% of humans, isn't a professional debator so of course he'd probably do poorly in a debate.  HOWEVER, that does not mean he's wrong.

            Over the last decade, all 15 or so of the massive rape news stories have proved to be completely false.  Despite this, every time a new rape story pops up, there is a lynch mob going after the accused.  Once it's proven the accused are totally innocent, the lynch mob never says "sorry".

            Feminists keep making up "problems" to keep themselves psuedo important. Feminists never fight for equality.  They fight to extend vaginal privilege in all areas of life.  There was a study in the UK that showed that if men were treated as softly in the criminal system as women are, then the male prison population would only be 14% of it's current rate.  Feminists are not fighting to correct this, but rather thay are fighting to end sending women to prison, while ending Due Process for men.  In the official UK judges' mannual, in 2 sections (sentencing and "equality"), judges are told to be extremely lenient on women.  Feminists are silent on this issue.

            Of course there are countless other issues.

            Milo is good for the cause because he's a camp fag that the right loves.

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              I'm a big fan of Clinton. She's intimidatingly intelligent, diplomatic and passionate - everything a president should be. Is she perfect? No. Who is?? Certainly not Obama… Or Kennedy, or Lincoln...

              Is the world ready for a female US president? No, not really. People don't trust women. Men don't trust women, women don't trust women. Never have, never will. It takes a LOT to get people to believe in a woman. And for the most part, Clinton has done it (she is ahead by double digits and will most likely win). But it took a whole lot of work. She has 'fixed' her demeanor and her voice and has somehow managed to do the impossible - she's managed to satisfy the double standards.

              I have huge admiration for her. Could I do what she is doing? Run for a position which I'm over-qualified for and still face a shitstorm of criticism, scrutiny and humiliation from an opponent who may be one of the most under-qualified candidates to ever run? No way, I would have given up a long time ago. Most people would - but Clinton is extraordinary. I like her a lot.

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                sutieday
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                Trump 2016! He's with Us! Soo much better than being with her…

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                  MancCub
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                  @raphjd:

                  Why do western countries have to change to suit the immigrants?   The US has to change to suit illegals, muslim immigrants, and all manner of non-American people.    The same here in Europe, but it's far worse here.

                  Why should native people have changed to suit Western immigrants?

                  You don't like new immigrants in the US? Then go back to wherever your family comes from.

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                    semurg30
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                    I hate Trump and Clinton. I'm not voting for either.

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                    • raphjdR Offline
                      raphjd Forum Administrator
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                      @MancCub:

                      @raphjd:

                      Why do western countries have to change to suit the immigrants?   The US has to change to suit illegals, muslim immigrants, and all manner of non-American people.    The same here in Europe, but it's far worse here.

                      Why should native people have changed to suit Western immigrants?

                      You don't like new immigrants in the US? Then go back to wherever your family comes from.

                      Either you are dishonest or delusional.  I didn't say I hate immigrants, I said why should we change to suit them.  They come to the west because it's better than where they are from, but demand the west become where they are from.  I guess you are one of those liberals who loves seeing illegal Mexicans waving the Mexican flag demanding the US change to suit them.  Go to Mexico and try that same crap and see how long it takes before you get beat up.

                      Are you saying that other countries pander to immigrants like we see happening in the west?    WOW, cool!!!  I can go to the middle east with my husband and be openly gay.    :cheers:  I can take my sisters and they can dress and act however they like.    :cheesy2:

                      Please tell me about all the middle eastern countries that have special court systems for non muslims.  Isreal only has 1 legal system, but they have Beth Dins (jewish courts) in other countries, like the UK.  Saudi only has sharia courts, but they have sharia courts in other countries, like the UK.

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                        cannonmc
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                        I am reminded of the old joke:

                        A Pilgrim father asks a native American "What did you call this country before we arrived?"

                        Answer: "Ours"

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                          stickyboy
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                          @raphjd:

                          @MancCub:

                          @raphjd:

                          Why do western countries have to change to suit the immigrants?   The US has to change to suit illegals, muslim immigrants, and all manner of non-American people.    The same here in Europe, but it's far worse here.

                          Why should native people have changed to suit Western immigrants?

                          You don't like new immigrants in the US? Then go back to wherever your family comes from.

                          Either you are dishonest or delusional.   I didn't say I hate immigrants, I said why should we change to suit them.  They come to the west because it's better than where they are from, but demand the west become where they are from.   I guess you are one of those liberals who loves seeing illegal Mexicans waving the Mexican flag demanding the US change to suit them.   Go to Mexico and try that same crap and see how long it takes before you get beat up.

                          Are you saying that other countries pander to immigrants like we see happening in the west?     WOW, cool!!!   I can go to the middle east with my husband and be openly gay.    :cheers:   I can take my sisters and they can dress and act however they like.    :cheesy2:

                          Please tell me about all the middle eastern countries that have special court systems for non muslims.   Isreal only has 1 legal system, but they have Beth Dins (jewish courts) in other countries, like the UK.   Saudi only has sharia courts, but they have sharia courts in other countries, like the UK.

                          I'm just curious - how do you feel about British tourists coming to places like Spain, Turkey, Greece, Cuba, Malaysia, Hong Kong etc to escape the terrible British weather and staying at resorts set up especially for them, where they can sit by the pool and eat fish and chips, without the burden of having to experience any of the local culture? I am genuinely curious.

                          My husband's sister and brother-in-law are actually expats working in Hong Kong. They're lovely, but they pretty much stay inside the expat community, only make friends with white people, don't speak the local language and eat mostly food imported from Britain. They make a lot of money by working in Hong Kong, though.

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                            jimiphil
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                            Trump is going down and flames and he is taking the rest of those low life republicans with him :cheers: :cheers:

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                              brianboru72
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                              I do understand that Trump was able to tap into people's fears and concerns- some of which are legitimate. But he has been such a bigoted, sexist, hate mongering, serial liar- it boggles the mind how he made it this far. And now even many Republicans are trying to distance themselves from him.

                              Tell someone you love them today, because life is short.
                              But shout it at them in German, because life is also terrifying and confusing.

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                                alanalt
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                                I'm Canadian, so I've long looked at US Presidential contests as the most important elections affecting my country that I can't actually vote in so I've paid a fair amount of attention to this contest.

                                I despise Hillary Clinton. She's everything I hate in modern politics. She's compulsively dishonest, entitled, and part of a growing political class who have transformed the concept of 'public service' into a way of joining the ranks of the mega-wealthy. She has only a fraction of the political skill and ability to connect with voters that her husband has and seems incapable of doing or saying anything genuine that hasn't been focus-tested to appeal to this or that special interest group.

                                But if Hillary Clinton is bad, Donald Trump is even worse. He has all of Clinton's flaws: dishonesty, entitlement, corruption, etc. plus additional charming traits like emotional instability/immaturity and being a serial sexual predator. If Clinton represents the current unacceptably low standard of political life in the US, Trump promises to debase it even further…

                                As a Canadian, I hope Clinton wins because a Clinton government is likely to be more stable and somewhat better/more stable to deal with for long-standing US allies. But if I was a US voter, I sure wouldn't vote for either of them even on a 'picking the least-worst' basis...

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                                  MancCub
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                                  @raphjd:

                                  @MancCub:

                                  @raphjd:

                                  Why do western countries have to change to suit the immigrants?   The US has to change to suit illegals, muslim immigrants, and all manner of non-American people.    The same here in Europe, but it's far worse here.

                                  Why should native people have changed to suit Western immigrants?

                                  You don't like new immigrants in the US? Then go back to wherever your family comes from.

                                  Either you are dishonest or delusional.   I didn't say I hate immigrants, I said why should we change to suit them.  They come to the west because it's better than where they are from, but demand the west become where they are from.   I guess you are one of those liberals who loves seeing illegal Mexicans waving the Mexican flag demanding the US change to suit them.   Go to Mexico and try that same crap and see how long it takes before you get beat up.

                                  Are you saying that other countries pander to immigrants like we see happening in the west?     WOW, cool!!!   I can go to the middle east with my husband and be openly gay.    :cheers:   I can take my sisters and they can dress and act however they like.    :cheesy2:

                                  Please tell me about all the middle eastern countries that have special court systems for non muslims.   Isreal only has 1 legal system, but they have Beth Dins (jewish courts) in other countries, like the UK.   Saudi only has sharia courts, but they have sharia courts in other countries, like the UK.

                                  I'm one of those liberals who hates hypocrites.

                                  Other countries haven't pandered to Western immigrants because the Western immigrants have just killed all round them and overrun the places. Australia, New Zealand, Canada, USA… but the best example of it is probably apartheid in South Africa.

                                  A lot of those Mexicans you mention have Native American ancestry. Many Trump supporters in the USA are having nightmares at the thought of whites losing their dominance/privilege, and that's just hilarious.

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                                    • raphjdR Offline
                                      raphjd Forum Administrator
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                                      I'm just curious - how do you feel about British tourists coming to places like Spain, Turkey, Greece, Cuba, Malaysia, Hong Kong etc to escape the terrible British weather and staying at resorts set up especially for them, where they can sit by the pool and eat fish and chips, without the burden of having to experience any of the local culture? I am genuinely curious.

                                      My husband's sister and brother-in-law are actually expats working in Hong Kong. They're lovely, but they pretty much stay inside the expat community, only make friends with white people, don't speak the local language and eat mostly food imported from Britain. They make a lot of money by working in Hong Kong, though.

                                      It's not the same thing.  There are no special laws made to give the expats special rights.

                                      In fact, if you've paid attention, several countries take advantage by doing land grabs from the expats.  We've seen this, especially with Spain and Mexico.

                                      I'm one of those liberals who hates hypocrites.

                                      Other countries haven't pandered to Western immigrants because the Western immigrants have just killed all round them and overrun the places. Australia, New Zealand, Canada, USA… but the best example of it is probably apartheid in South Africa.

                                      A lot of those Mexicans you mention have Native American ancestry. Many Trump supporters in the USA are having nightmares at the thought of whites losing their dominance/privilege, and that's just hilarious.

                                      So you are crying about historic things.  Ok, let's play that game.  Where's your whine about all the western borders that have changed?

                                      Where's your whine about Palestine?

                                      Where's your whine about all the legally bought property that was then "land grabbed" by the government?  Spain and Mexico are well known to do this to foreigners.

                                      Oh yeah, and I take it that you believe that no non-western (white) people have ever taken over someone else's land.  Read the bible and the quran and you will see that is not true.  Both books brag about their peoples going on rampages through the middle east killing everyone they come across.  Africa and the middle east have always been hot bed of fighting over land.

                                      South Africa and most other African countries are very hostile to whites.  If we are honest, the colonized African countries were running well when the western governments left them.  Now they are shit holes.  Uganda, for example, went to shit in less than a decade after it was independent.  This is the pattern for all the African countries.

                                      Like most liberals, you probably blame whites for slavery, but we have records showing it has existed since 6,000+BC and it's still going today.

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                                        jazuko
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                                        Trump supporter here. How anyone could vote for Hillary with her political track record and covering up all of Bills rapes is beyond me.

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                                          MancCub
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                                          @raphjd:

                                          I'm just curious - how do you feel about British tourists coming to places like Spain, Turkey, Greece, Cuba, Malaysia, Hong Kong etc to escape the terrible British weather and staying at resorts set up especially for them, where they can sit by the pool and eat fish and chips, without the burden of having to experience any of the local culture? I am genuinely curious.

                                          My husband's sister and brother-in-law are actually expats working in Hong Kong. They're lovely, but they pretty much stay inside the expat community, only make friends with white people, don't speak the local language and eat mostly food imported from Britain. They make a lot of money by working in Hong Kong, though.

                                          It's not the same thing.  There are no special laws made to give the expats special rights.

                                          In fact, if you've paid attention, several countries take advantage by doing land grabs from the expats.  We've seen this, especially with Spain and Mexico.

                                          I'm one of those liberals who hates hypocrites.

                                          Other countries haven't pandered to Western immigrants because the Western immigrants have just killed all round them and overrun the places. Australia, New Zealand, Canada, USA… but the best example of it is probably apartheid in South Africa.

                                          A lot of those Mexicans you mention have Native American ancestry. Many Trump supporters in the USA are having nightmares at the thought of whites losing their dominance/privilege, and that's just hilarious.

                                          So you are crying about historic things.   Ok, let's play that game.   Where's your whine about all the western borders that have changed?

                                          Where's your whine about Palestine?

                                          Where's your whine about all the legally bought property that was then "land grabbed" by the government?  Spain and Mexico are well known to do this to foreigners.

                                          Oh yeah, and I take it that you believe that no non-western (white) people have ever taken over someone else's land.   Read the bible and the quran and you will see that is not true.  Both books brag about their peoples going on rampages through the middle east killing everyone they come across.   Africa and the middle east have always been hot bed of fighting over land.

                                          South Africa and most other African countries are very hostile to whites.   If we are honest, the colonized African countries were running well when the western governments left them.  Now they are shit holes.   Uganda, for example, went to shit in less than a decade after it was independent.  This is the pattern for all the African countries.

                                          Like most liberals, you probably blame whites for slavery, but we have records showing it has existed since 6,000+BC and it's still going today.

                                          Historic? What's historic about it? - white Europeans are still emigrating in large numbers to those countries whilst at the same time complaining of immigrants in their home countries.

                                          The irony of Americans complaining of Muslim immigrants when Muslims have been in land that is the US from at least the 16th Century - and white Australians complaining of Asian immigration when they themselves are immigrants. You couldn't make it up. They judge themselves by a different, privileged, standard.

                                          "Like most liberals, you probably…" - keep making assumptions, I don't care.

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                                            MancCub
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                                            @jazuko:

                                            Trump supporter here. How anyone could vote for Hillary with her political track record and covering up all of Bills rapes is beyond me.

                                            Only one person in the race is up in court over rape allegations and it's not Bill.

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